Serious Design Flaw: Super Enduro!

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by Yellow Pig, Sep 10, 2012.

  1. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    Regardless, it's still a less than optimal design in my opinion. (The oil tank/radiator, not the skid plate)
  2. LAKEMONSTER

    LAKEMONSTER Adventurer

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    No, i have not entered a Vendors thread, as i am busy enough, which is a good thing. I am going to have a Website in the not-to-distant future, but i am a one guy enterprise, and the amount could quickly overwhelm me. I am building a network of alternate Vendors which can help me disperse the load, if need be.

    I do not have a Water Jet Table, or CNC equipment, so i am putting those tools into place. A little further explanation of who i am is warranted here. I had a significant injury in a previous occupation, which has left me with a limited time per day i can be active, and working on my feet.

    I truly appreciate the business, and a little bit of patience is needed time to time, in order to allow me to catch up. However, once my "alternative work force" is in place, you will be seeing some innovative ideas from me.

    Please contact me through info@mvmotoventure.ca i would be happy to shoot an extra Photo, or two, and offer any
    additional information that i can.

    Thanks you guys, for your support!!!

    Remember, There are NO PROBLEMS, only SOLUTIONS...
  3. veriest1

    veriest1 Grand NOOBlet

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    LAKEMONSTER: I sent you an e-mail yesterday. Thanks for quick response!


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  4. Misery Goat

    Misery Goat Positating the negative Super Moderator

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    As with many things it's a compromise to save space and maximize performance. The bigger issue to me is hanging a heavy skid plate on the radiator mount with no mount to the subframe. My advspec plate has not moved since I put it on and that goes for the radiator mount. And my SE sees lots of big air, g outs, and all out offroad abuse.
  5. hilslamer

    hilslamer 2XRedheadedstepchild

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    Define optimal, then. Clearly, you do not understand the "fuse" in the system - any system, structural or electrical or ? - and how it should yield. Would you rather the stock skidplate cracks(it's diecast, and fails sacrificially long before the centercases do) or worse yet, the centercases cost you half the cost of the bike to replace...not counting the stranding it cost you?

    Take some responsibility for your riding and admit you made a mistake landing where you did, how you did, when you did...and don't blame KTM and certainly not Black Dog for any sort of design flaws. Would you try to sue Fiskars if you fell on a pair of their scissors and skewered yourself?

    In fact, you should detail any other failures you have had, and come up with a solution for them, too. Funny how "the rest of us" can ride the same bike with lesser protection and no problems because we understand that limitations are not in engineering so much as they are in cognisance of limitations...
  6. BIG-E

    BIG-E AKA; Mongo-E

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    Hello Everyone,

    Mike is making us a rectifier/regulator heat shield that in prelim testing is lowering the temp at least 25 degrees!:clap Mike is getting a reading of 175 degrees when at idle and showing 5 bars, with the shield it drops down to 150ish degrees.

    TT might help us with the pictures?

    Oh, we might have a new rear rack as well?

    Take care Everyone, Eric.
  7. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

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    :ear
  8. KTMSER

    KTMSER Big bike friendly

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    The shield thing has been played out, while it may buy you some time it does not cure the problem...

    Relocate it............
  9. Misery Goat

    Misery Goat Positating the negative Super Moderator

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    Yup, get it off the header pipe. :deal
  10. Splisken

    Splisken I'm not dead yet...

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    Plate received...installation tomorrow...ride testing probably not until next spring due to snow but if the chance comes I'll get after it!
  11. LAKEMONSTER

    LAKEMONSTER Adventurer

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    HOW-DEE-BOYS... i have been getting some great feedback about the Plates i have got sent out, but today i received a comment, that deserves mentioning. On the Photos that BIG-E sent through the Grapevine for me, that was on my Personal 950, and that plate, i had added a couple supports under the case guard covers. On my own bike, i built the sides practically straight up, and down, which looked like it could use an extra brace?
    Sooooo, on the Guards i have been building and shipping out, i have altered the sides, so they are sitting out about 15 degrees, and therefore, i felt the side supports were a little redundant.
    It was mentioned to me that the original Photo did not look exactly like the product received, so therefore i received an e-mail inquiring about the change?
    The comments were correct, in that i should have provided an up to date Photo, explaining any change? I appreciate all inquiries, and positive criticism.

    I respect a perfectionist...

    Remember, there are NO Problems, ONLY Solutions. Snow in the Hills here too, Dam!
  12. bruceca2002

    bruceca2002 Been here awhile

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    I received my plate from Lake Monster and it is a work of art. It bolted up easily and looks like it was built the way a OEM plate should have been built. With Mike's design you would have to hit something very hard on the very front of the plate and actually bend the plate before the oil tank and rad would move.

    I replaced my Black Dog plate with this plate and I like how Mike's plate bolts to the center engine cases. I think I will install a rubber block near the center bolts to add even greater support for the real crushing blow that this bike will see do to it's weight.

    Well done Mike, now get that website up and running and display your work to the world.

    Big Bruce
  13. Brown Dog

    Brown Dog North Georgia Dual Sportr

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    Can this plate be purchased in this NATURAL ALUMINUM FINISH ??

    $$ ??

    :ear

    BEST LOOKING SKID PLATE IVE SEEN FOR 950SE !!! Period :D

  14. Splisken

    Splisken I'm not dead yet...

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    +1! Thanks Mike. Anyone who refers to an unreasonable hardass as a perfectionist is OK in my book :D I do IT product development for a living and it sometimes gets in the way of actually living for me. On the more fun side of things, I spoke with a retired NOAA weather friend of mine and he says November is going to be B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L here so I hope to get out and bash me some plate next month!
  15. LAKEMONSTER

    LAKEMONSTER Adventurer

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    Brown Dog, thanks for compliments! Yes, i could leave one of these au' natural ? for you, but it's not gonna stay PURTY for too long? Bare Aluminum Oxidizes fairly quickly. The Powdercoating end up being $20.00 per, so i would just deduct that off the cost of $325.00 Can. for you.

    BTW, do you still have your 690? I have finished a Prototype rear Quick Detach Plate system for the 690 crowd, after hearing so many complaints about rear fuel storage/bag/box etc, covering the fuel tank. My system slips on and off in seconds with one fastener, and centers the load over top off the four fuel tank mounts.

    Will PM you, and get some Photos off to you?
    Thanks, Mike.
  16. Brown Dog

    Brown Dog North Georgia Dual Sportr

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    Thanks Mike,
    Yes I still have my 690.
    Most plates I've seen that hinge or held on by a pin,
    Rattles and / or loose :scratch

    Mike Brown
  17. offworlder

    offworlder Been here awhile

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    Want to resurrect this thread - Lakemonster, you still building monster skid plates ?
  18. LAKEMONSTER

    LAKEMONSTER Adventurer

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    You betcha, i will continue to Build Plates for as long as i own my beloved SE, which just might be forever...

    You can contact me through my Business E-mail info@mvmotoventure.ca

    Have either a Silver Vein, or Black Texture in stock.

    Thanks for your interest ! Mike.
  19. unaweep

    unaweep Uses lotsa band-aids

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    Got mine in the mail yesterday!:clap

    It's beautiful and functional. My oil tank was busted up bad- both externally and internally- enough so that I had to buy a new oil tank. Ouch!

    The plate is beefy and it mounted right up perfectly. It also works with the Black Dog sidestand relocator- you just need to trim off a piece of one of the spacers.

    As an added bonus, doing business with Mike was an absolute pleasure.

    Thanks again Mike! You make a quality product! :thumb