Setup your rugged Android for all things GPS ?

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by ohgood, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. chrisjk

    chrisjk Been here awhile

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    Online, there is plenty of choice, here are a few that inmates have mentioned :

    1. Map Quest
    2. Harley Ride Planner
    3. Furkot
    4. GPSies
    5. Open Street Map
    6. Tyre To Travel
    7. TourStart
    8. Motogoloco
    9. BikeToaster
    10. MotoPlaner
    11. Honda Trip Planner
    12. Maps2gpx.com
    13. OSRM
    14. My Scenic Drives
    15. Ride with Gps
    16. Kurviger
    17. Calimoto

    Of these Motoplaner and Kurviger are my favourites.
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  2. 71tr

    71tr Been here awhile

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    For those that struggle using a smartphone touchscreen while on the bike or with a gloved hand. I've found the "Big Launcher" android app to be very helpful in my setup. It allows you to customize your screen with big buttons that can be assigned to various apps or widgets. I like having quick access to screen brightness, gps, wifi, Osmand, Locus or even a digital compass.

    I use this on two identical Kyocera Torque phones that have taken me across Mongolia and through Patagonia. Comes in a free version and a pay version that offers more flexibility. No affiliation, just something I've found useful now that I have committed to an Android navigation device. I posted this content earlier in this thread but photobucket being photobucket has blocked my pic hosting. Before and after shot below.

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  3. slartidbartfast

    slartidbartfast Love those blue pipes

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    I can't compare a trip 100 miles up the road to your jaunts through Mongolia and Patagonia but that app looks very similar to the OE Dura Grid app that is on my XD. Launching an app from there is easy but once the app is open, operating it with gloves on is far more of a challenge. I have decided the XD is not especially glove friendly although if I lick the tip of a finger, it usually works for a while.

    Latest challenge is that I am getting lots of wind noise feedback from the mic on my SENA SMH-10 when Osmand is giving verbal directions.
  4. 71tr

    71tr Been here awhile

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    One reason I chose the somewhat dated Kyocera Torque as my Android navigation device are the raised mechanical buttons on the case of the phone. Controls for going back a page, to the home page etc.. are driven by tactile raised buttons at the bottom of the phone rather than icons on a screen. Toggling the screen on and off is also accomplished through a raised power button. Lastly the Torque has an external raised quick connect button of some type, I think it is programmable so offers another option to bring the phone out of slumber or fire up a particular app. Otherwise the phone is limited in comparison to newer models, only 1gb of built-in storage space, can be overcome with the expandable SD card slot in the battery compartment. But I like the hard rubber case, o-ring protected battery compartment cover etc..
  5. Cyclepath

    Cyclepath Lang may yer lum reek

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    I have a question not totally related to Locus so if I'm out of line just let me know.
    Ok, here goes.
    I have a Nomu S10 and I bought it for the sole purpose of being a stand alone gps for Locus which it is doing a very good job. I do not need it to be a cell phone....But.... It would be nice if it did work as a cell phone as well to be a spare incase I destroy my ASUS. ;-)
    so is there any Nomu phone owners in here that could answer or anyone else for that matter. I live in Wa. state near Vancouver Wa. I was told by Gear best that I bought it from that it would work here in the states but it does not. I am using the Cricket service which is at+t and it is obviously gsm.
    I took the Nomu to the Cricket store and a tech there put his sim into it and it would not recognize it. Then I took it to an AT+T store with the same results.
    So just out a chance I took it to a Verizon store and the Nomu recognized the sim card but that is all.
    Some where I read that it would not work with 4g or LTE but would with 2g or 3 g. ??? I can not remember where I read that.
    Is there any Nomu owners here that have it working as a cell phone .
    I have all the band width written down so if you need those I can post them for you.

    Thanks, :-)
  6. chrisjk

    chrisjk Been here awhile

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    My Nomu works as a phone fine in the UK but short of suggesting you return to Scotland, I am afraid I have no idea how to get yours working in the USA.:hmmmmm
  7. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    if it supports the bands of your carrier, you'll have to edit the APN to have network access. of course 911 (emergency services in USA) will work without a sim card.

    network-
    settings-
    cellular networks-
    APN
    set it to whatever your carrier says
  8. Got_Carbs?

    Got_Carbs? Been here awhile

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    I have one phone setup as GPS only with no sim card. it's still able to mke and receive calls and send texts over WiFi. It's through Google Voice with the Hangouts and Hangouts dialer app, free calls and texts in all of US iirc. It's a different number than my main number. It's good enough for me since I always have my main phone on me anyway.
  9. slartidbartfast

    slartidbartfast Love those blue pipes

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    I disabled Hangouts because I was trying to streamline the software as much as possible and the phone would not let me delete it. Assumed from the name and description it was a "cool kids" messaging app. I too carry another phone and have Skype installed on the XD but it never hurts to have backup communication options. Might have to give Hangouts a try now.
  10. NorOntScout

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    Checked frequencycheck.com which states only 2g and 2.5g are supported on the nomu s10 on cricket. And since 2g is being shutdown worldwide..... You get the idea.



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  11. Cyclepath

    Cyclepath Lang may yer lum reek

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    Hehehe :-) Ok, guess I'll have to move to Scotland.........
  12. Cyclepath

    Cyclepath Lang may yer lum reek

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    Thanks for getting back to me NorOntScout. I don't fully understand the 2g 3g 4g 4glte stuff. Doesn't a 4g lte or just a 4g sim also support 2g ? Someone along the line pretty much said what you just said. But could not explain it to me or didn't want to take the time.
  13. Cyclepath

    Cyclepath Lang may yer lum reek

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    Hi ohgood. I think it was the at+t guy that tried to set all the APN settings the same as on my Asus but I could not see what he was doing and when it didn't work he put it back the way it was. My Nomu uses a nano sim but my Asus uses a Micro sim so if I wanted to try this on my own I guess I would have to have the cricket store transfer my micro sim to nano sim and then when I wanted to use it in my Asus I'd just have to use an adapter. ??? is that correct ?
    But if it is like NorOntScout says then it prolly wont be worth fooling with.
  14. NorOntScout

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    The different levels are the different methods of voice and data transmission.

    2g is the oldest and slowest method, has basically non existent data. This is what your super reliable Nokia candy bar type phones were running.

    3g is the next generation from there and is backwards compatible with 2g. That little h+ you see sometimes beside the signal strength indicator is telling you your phone is working at a 3g data /voice rate. This is what started the big smartphone push.

    4g and lte are almost interchangeable and are the next generation above 3g. Sometimes you will see a little 4g or lte beside your signal strength indicator, again phones are usually backwards compatible. This is what got everyone using their phones to watch videos.

    The sim card may support 4g/lte communications but if your phone doesn't support one of the 4g comms channels that your carrier is using it doesn't mean anything.

    The phone will try all the available channels on 4g (on a quick internet search there are 44, most phones only support about 16) that it can use, then switch to 3g and search all of its available channels and switch to 2g. There are only 4 channels avaliable on 2g and almost every phone can use them but these channels are being turned off to be repurposed for 4g comms (guess on my part)

    So, yes, your 4g card can support 2g, but 2g is the lowest of the low and is getting turned off to make room for other forms of communications.

    The nomu was designed for the Chinese market and would like have excellent coverage because the phone is using the same channels available in China not the United States.

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  15. NorOntScout

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    The nomu s10 supports the 4 2g bands, supports 2 of the 3g bands and 6 4g bands. But none of supported 3g or 4g bands are being used by cricket. Or for that matter any of 12 major US carriers.


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  16. slartidbartfast

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    I went through this with a little spare phone recently. Tried to activate it to lend to my parents when they were visiting and it would not work as a phone because it does not support 3G. I thought 3G was only for data but apparently modern phones use the same system for voice traffic. Several of the US carriers recently phased out 2G and analog has been gone for a while.

    EDIT: NorOntScout just said it all, only better.
  17. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    you can ask for their sim card adapter... it's just a frame around the smallest card to fit it into larger sized slots.

    I didn't know that about gsm. when I set my radio (at) to gsm only it still works...
  18. Cyclepath

    Cyclepath Lang may yer lum reek

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    Ok, thanks everybody for all the info. I think I just learned something..... well....maybe. :-)
    So I guess I am SOL. As far as the Nomu goes for use as a cell phone. That's ok because my Asus zenfone works just fine. I just thought it would be nice if I could just switch sim cards between the two phones. :-)
  19. Nesbocaj

    Nesbocaj Earth, we're #1

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    You can use tethering via bluetooth and wifi (even USB) I have my Kyocera DF pro wifi tethered to my "real" phone for data.
    If I have data I can use the Kyocera as a phone with Hangouts, and to use Kurviger to make a route on-line.
  20. Cyclepath

    Cyclepath Lang may yer lum reek

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    Hi Nes..... Yup, I have tried using hangouts and tethering. hangouts sure doesn't work very well for me. Lots of dropped calls and about a 3 second delay from when I say something to when the other party hears it. that's pretty annoying. I have had several parties call me using hangouts and I have called them with the same crappy results.