Shinko 705's

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Big_John, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. aaronrkelly

    aaronrkelly Been here awhile

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    Im on my 2nd 705 on the rear of my 2011 GS650.......and I used a tube type tire both times (only option in that size).

    Not only that I got a nail it in, took it off, patched it and kept using it for another 3K miles.

    .....tube type tire.....patched at that.....Im hard core.

    Any rate....today I swapped it out.

    The old tire had 9023 miles on it.....thats alot of miles on the cheap.

    Here are some pics of it today when I took it off.

    9023 miles on a G650GS.....last 4k where highway on a long trip......first 5k where mostly two lane highway but some gravel/dirt roads and trails. Id say 95 street and 5 offroad.

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    The front looks like 80% still......I have no doubt the front will last thru 3 rears easy.

    Never once had a problem with this tire, performed great.....sticks well on the wet and works fine for the limited off road my girlfriend does on this bike........and I can go thru 3 sets for what 1 set of Tourances cost.
  2. 8lives

    8lives Dharma Bum

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    I have almost 10000 miles on my front,rears still going about 3000 to 6000,mileage seems to vary but for the price Im happy and it's probably a good Idea to have the rear wheel off once in a while to check the bits an pieces inside.funny I have a friend who just put heindau K60's on,nice tire but really spendy,the 705's are my tire of choice but I caught myself looking at a cheaper 244 the other day and remembered that's the way your suppose to shop when it's for a KLR,probably gonna stick with the 705.
  3. MikeFromMT

    MikeFromMT Past Tense

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    After looking at that pic of your tire (flat in the middle and whiskers on the sides) I almost posted "I see you live in Iowa too" then I looked at your location and...:photogyou really do. :lol3
  4. 8lives

    8lives Dharma Bum

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    I commute and wander alot with mine and I always wear the center out like him,I wish I was a twisty road guy but Im to busy daydreaming on twisties to push towards knee dragger status.fun either way,just wait Ill be there soon.
  5. Yokomo

    Yokomo Gorilla Adventurer

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    244's are great too
  6. NordieBoy

    NordieBoy Armature speller

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    Buy not as great as 705's
  7. aaronrkelly

    aaronrkelly Been here awhile

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    Yeah....not much twisty action. That bikes is basically my girlfriends bike and shes more of a "take it easy" kind of rider.

    ......and it sees ALOT of "hey lets go see Niagra Falls Ive got two days off work" kinda trips.....ie hammer down, see shit......get back.

    We live about 5 mins away from Lake Rathbun.
  8. gtackett

    gtackett Been here awhile

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    Got 5300 miles on my set and tired of waiting on them to wear out. I'm going back to a 50/50 tire. Shinkos wore well but too street for me. They are hopeless in wet leaves or mud, but fine on street or gravel.
  9. Reddog*

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    705 rears have been running 6000 miles. No cords, .025 to .05 of tread left.
    705 fronts 12,000 and then the cupping is why I change them out. they still have .200 of tread left on average.

    Full bore m40 rear 2400 miles and it is well past half worn. .100 tread left.
    I will be pulling it because it has been plugged on my last trip from picking up a screw.
    Seems I would be lucky to get 4000 miles out of it at the current wear rate.
    So not more m40's here. The slightly more open tread of the m40 was a little better in gravel.
  10. Yokomo

    Yokomo Gorilla Adventurer

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    Bummer I was wanting to try the fullbore next
  11. Jud

    Jud Long timer

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    Conflicting reports on the Full Bores. One guy said he gained considerably more mileage than the 705????? I was thinking about running a FB rear with a TKC or Big Block front thinking that the combo would be good for 6K miles. I'm really thinking a Heidi rear and TKC/Big Block would be the best for dirt oriented playing now. Otherwise, it's a car tire rear and a 705 front for touring and commuting for me from now on.:1drink
  12. markbvt

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    Yeah, that may have been me. The Full Bore's tread life is, of course, dependent on what kind of riding you're doing, but the least I've seen out of one is 5500 miles, and that one would have easily lasted at least another 500 miles but I pulled it off due to an upcoming trip. And that particular tire covered a 4000-mile Labrador/Newfoundland trip. The first Full Bore rear I ran, which didn't get used on any trips, just day rides and commuting, lasted about 7000 miles. The Shinko 705s I've run have never lasted me more than 5500 miles, and by that mileage they were really worn.

    For what it's worth, the Full Bore 150/70-17 rear's wear slows down considerably towards the end of its life. You may find around 4000 miles that it looks like it'll need to come off fairly soon, but then it lasts another 2000 miles before it really does need to be replaced (and for what it's worth, I'm not the type to delay until the tire is bald in the middle -- it comes off when there's still actual tread, sometimes even before hitting the wear bars).

    --mark
  13. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    FB's on my Tiger XC as well, although I take them off if my riding is all road, put the scorp trails back on - they are smoother on pavement. My FB's have 3200 miles on them and look like they'll go easily another couple of thousand. But then I don't wear tires down to nothing either, nothing like fresh rubber.

    There isn't a better tire at this price point, even conisderably more. Probably get longer life out of a Heideneau but twice the money and everyone complains about mounting difficulty, especially for field repairs.

    FB is a better tire than the Shinko, hands down - the radial is 'V' rated and it has a better rubber compound. The fronts are virtually the same. Neither are good for real dirt, a knobby will better prevent washing out.

    The biggest problem I see with these tires is there's no 130 or 140 for an 18" rear. The 150 is too big and the 120 is too small.
  14. _cy_

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    interesting .. have not heard of full bore tires before this
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    Interesting Mark. Wish I could run this FB to the end and see, but with a plug in it now no way I will trust it on a trip.
  16. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    I really like the 705's. Great all around tire for the new Vstrom 650.

    I want to go more supermoto and get BT023's next.
  17. NordieBoy

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    Love my 705's, on and off road.
  18. crazyapple92

    crazyapple92 Been here awhile

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    What's the verdict guys? I need a new rear for a big twisty ride coming up. I'm mostly an off road guy these days, so I'll probably swap back to my knobby rear after the ride is over. That being the case I'm not looking to drop +100 on a tire I'll only be using for a week and then every now and again.

    705s seem to fit the bill. I'm looking for something that I can ride HARD on, I'm not a big street guy but when I do ride I move quick and lean way over.

    No nay sayers please. I have a 270 on the rear right now and I've drug both pegs several times. Not saying it's a good idea, and honestly it's probably the sketchiest thing I've ever done on the bike. That far over they're walking all over the place, howling like you wouldn't beleive, and you can feel the outside knobs bending, slipping, and generally doing things you don't want them to do. Point is though, if a 270 can do it I'm sure the 705 can handle it without breaking a sweat... or that's the hope at least.

    I've heard lots of people say they've scraped with it, and I've seen some pictures of 705s with no chicken strips. But every time I run into that they're on a Vee or R1200. I ride a 300lb supermoto, I'm sure being half the weight will work in my favor but I imagine my bike can lean a good bit further than theirs.

    I'm just looking for someone to pat me on my shoulder and tell me I'm not crazy for trying this. :lol3
  19. Jamie Z

    Jamie Z Long timer

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    If all you're looking for is a street tire, I'd go with the 712 over the 705.

    Jamie
  20. Jud

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    There is a pic somewhere in here of a shagged 705 that some guy had mounted up on a motard. Looked like he had a ball and if I remember right, the race was going to be a combined type, tarmac and off-tarmac type deally which is why he choose the 705. At the last minute they changed it to a tarmac only race. Wish I could point you straight to the post but honestly,,,, I can't remember as it was a couple of years ago. I do remember reading that the guy was pleased with the tire.

    I ride pretty fast and I scrap pegs but I'm one of those DL650 guys. I did have 705s on my XR as they came on the bike and while I don't remember scrapping any pegs,,,, I did haul the mail on the tarmac with em on. I think you'll be happy with em.