Should I buy a scooter?

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by thesurvivalist, May 25, 2014.

  1. B02S4

    B02S4 Aye

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    IMO, in general there is a huge difference in build quality between things produced in Taiwan & mainland China...
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  2. conchscooter

    conchscooter Long timer

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    That is one way to go. I've put most of the17,000 miles on my wife's ET4 150 at wide open throttle, 60+ mph. It is a lot more fun than riding 60+ on my motorcycle. So far so good but belts wear a lot faster as does the variator pulley. The Vespa isn't cheap and the ET4 air cooled and carbureted as proven a lot tougher than my GTS. Newer 250s have a much better track revord so i attribute that expensive mistake to the lemon law of bad luck.
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  3. Chillis

    Chillis Land Barge Pilot

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    OP, have you bought a scooter yet?
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  4. PCX

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    I'm curious if he has as well. I have been looking around for a 2015 Honda PCX and haven't heard of one hitting the showroom yet. Dealerships are saying end of June/July. Anyone heard any different?
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  5. elamofo

    elamofo Been here awhile

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    I thought he said he was going to purchase when he got back from Afghanistan. Could be remembering a different thread though. If this is the right thread, no idea how imminent his return is. Hopefully he stays safe though.
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  6. thesurvivalist

    thesurvivalist Backcountry Rider

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    Thanks elamofo. Yes I am currently in Afghanistan cursing about how terrible my internet is. I'm set on the 2015 pcx when I get back. I've not heard of the new pcx arriving at dealers yet, though i'm frequently checking on here to see if anyone has one.
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  7. klaviator

    klaviator Long timer

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    Some people ride scooters because they are fun, not to be as cheap as possible. When I replace my Super 8 I will consider paying a premium price for a small scooter if it has the features I want.

    BTW, I normally run my S-8 150 at 50MPH and often at full speed. 16,400 miles and the motor still runs as good as new. Nothing has failed on me yet.
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  8. conchscooter

    conchscooter Long timer

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    Nor will it.
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  9. SAM7

    SAM7 Been here awhile

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    I'm in a same situation as you!!! I've a VFR750 Interceptor thats returning almost the same mpg as your Buell! What a coincidence...! Anyhow, after much MUCH thinking, I've ruled out the scooters. Why? I just doesn't feel comfortable with a CVT. There're times when you need a sudden burst of acceleration and CVT scooters simply can't do that. Secondly, the few small scooters I've rode (a 50cc and a 125cc) have that 'LAG' when you roll the throttle from a stand still... They tend to rev up to certain rpms before moving. Big scooters might provide the oomph and won't have the lag due to more torque, but I'm talking about small sub 150cc scooters. Storage space, high mpg, wind/weather protection are of course tempting features of a scooter but I'm the type of guy who begs for some fun too along with practicality... So I'm steering away from scooters unless I find something with a manual shifter... Now, I'm looking forward at a Super Motard!!! Yes, they're uncomfortable, no storage, zero wind protection and poor mpg along with small fuel tank but boy are they FUN...! They're WICKED FUN! Besides, I've a VFR on stand by just in case of a long trip! Yamaha WR125X is on my list. You should consider one too if thats available across the pond... If not, maybe a Suzuki DRZ400SM??? Just a thought. Anyhow, Good Luck.
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  10. cdwise

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    Hmm, ET 2 50cc is one of the torquiest little scooters I've ever ridden. Damned thing really wanted to pop a wheelie every time I took off if I wasn't careful.

    Many good quality small scoots do take off quickly and often if they don't simply changing the rollers will resolve any "lag". Our 125cc Buddy has no lag either and I've had fun with guys riding Harleys and Hondas at stop lights with my GTS. But if fast sports bikes are you thing then anything else will seem slow assuming you are good with the clutch/throttle on your sport bike.
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  11. Jim Moore

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    You're thinking about it wrong. The scooter doesn't replace your bike. It replaces your car. All those little trips you used to do in the car you now do on the scooter. It's fun. It's easy. It saves money. And you can ride like a jackass and park in the bike rack. Essentially, win-win-win-win-WIN!
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  12. B02S4

    B02S4 Aye

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    Hey, have you been watching me? :D
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  13. FizzyRascal

    FizzyRascal Been here awhile

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    I'm not sure what small scooters you've ridden - but there's no 'lag' on my PCX or 946 - just point, squirt and off we go! :norton
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  14. LordSmoke

    LordSmoke Been here awhile

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    Love my 250 Helix. 70mpg, 70mph. I wear 3-piece suits and nice dress shoes to work. Weather protection and automatic are much appreciated. Big advantage in parking, too. Only use my SUV for lumber, bulk products, and take out involving more than one drink. Mine was a gift from my dad - he had accumulated three, but I would definitely purchase a replacement if necessary.

    I would't try to "get" your wife or anyone into riding unless that is what they really wanted. In fact, I tend to discourage it. Noobs on bikes/scoots make me very nervous, but we were all noobs once.
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  15. AMAC1680

    AMAC1680 Been here awhile

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    He's got it right considering he looks at this thru 23 year old eyes. Yeah I had to "shift it" myself when I was 20 something too.

    Be Big,
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  16. DinerRider

    DinerRider Commuter

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    What a great feeling when you read a thread and discover you're not alone. I'm one of those who started his journey on a motorcycle and then got hooked on scooters. I lived in Sydney for four years and scooters were everywhere, and so exposure to those social norms helped. Then after riding one I got to experience firsthand the joys of both a CVT transmission and an effortless ride. Not a day goes by now when I'm not amazed that my unassuming little 150cc scooter can take me to speed in an instant with very little required of me. It is that feeling of freedom that many of us seem to resonate with.

    Currently considering selling my Triumph and I definitely did not see that coming! My hope is that my wife will take the MSF riding safety class and join me in my scooter adventures.
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  17. Kamzilla

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    I would definitely go for it. I commuted on motorcycle for years, and was happy. Then one year, a buddy offered to sell me his Zuma for $300 bucks, and I figured what the hell, why not? The commute changed and got even cheaper. More importantly, the local roads were a lot of fun, and blasting it at full throttle put a grin on my face each day. I ended up selling the Zuma for around the same price about two years later, and now I'm on my second scooter, a Honda Elite.

    I prefer to buy used when it comes to vehicles, because they take a huge hit once they're driven off the lot. I was patient and scoured scooterfinder and craigslist ads until I found the Elite I was looking for. Rather than spending ~$3000 for a new one, I bought a used one, with both available accessories, for $2K. It had a whopping 103 miles on it, and was in brand new shape. If you don't mind being a bit patient, I would recommend looking used. Scooters are a funny thing - a lot are bought by older folks who then decide that they don't want to ride it, or by younger folks who get made fun of by their friends and do the same. Then you can get a practically new scoot for a lot less money. All it takes is a little patience. And look at the costs to ride - I've put over 1800 miles on my Elite, spending about $80 on gas. Practically, you won't get a better vehicle - it's easy to park, gives excellent weather protection, and is cheap to run. Go for it!
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  18. manofwheels

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    Scooters are fun and very easy to ride. You can carry a big heavy new york lock in the trunk and chain your rear wheel to a pole. You can hook groceries on the plastic bag tab. You're relaxed and not being scared of a car turning in front of you because you're not going 80 mph down the road. Seriously, cars make left turns in front of other cars. That's just the way of life. I've been riding over 2 1/2 years on scooters and never felt my life was in danger of vehicles.
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  19. chazbird

    chazbird Long timer

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    I'm late to this thread.
    I have been exclusively on scooters for the past 3 years. Speaking of non-tour bikes or serious ADV bikes they have superiority utility over a motorcycle, superior ease of use, easier to ride, usually smoother, probably cheaper to operate - and this includes up to mid size maxi scoots, 250-400cc. I think 250cc is "just enough" for everything for me (mine is a BV250, but lust after a BV350).

    A scooter is always fun, a motorcycle is often just fun when you're pressing it a bit, and in reality, how often do people actually do that, or are in the appropriate circumstances to do so? (Its also a ticket generating and safety factor). When you are not using its upper level performance potential a motorcycle often times is a bit of a burden to ride.

    Scooter = 90% fun, ease of use. 10% = lacking.
    Motorcycle = 60% fun, 40% = lacking (for most conditions).

    Also, scooters seem, to me, to be completely ego free, too.
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  20. honda

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    You'll be happiest aboard a Japanese scooter. Go backward and find an '84 or '85 vintage 4 stroke Honda Elite 125 or 150. They're liquid cooled, SIMPLE, sturdy and will last forever with regular maintenance. They'll be faster and more reliable than Chinese 49cc scoots. You won't go wrong.

    BTW I've owned 24 motorcycles from 1500cc Goldwing to Whizzer motorbike and I like riding 125 or 150 Honda better than ANY motorcycle. Life is short. Get a Honda scooter not less than 125 cc in order to keep up with traffic. You'll not only enjoy it more but your resale price will be very good too.

    Jerry