Should I choose a thumper? Help me!

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by hansi, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. itsatdm

    itsatdm Long timer

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    You should have a pretty good handle on your choices with the exception of the Terra. You have access to a Versys with a 19" front wheel and a XT600 isn't too far removed from the DR and KLR's horsepower wise. How was it? I adventerised a TDM 850. Rode the local fire roads, SE Ca. sand and the Alpine loop in Colorado. 6" of suspension travel is just not enough.


    The world needs a 400lb multi, but I am not holding my breath. The Japanese thumpers will cruise 80mph in Kansas on a calm day. They all need a HP boost and FI sure would be nice at 7,000ft. Suspension mods are a given. They do get tossed a bit in gusty wind. The lighter and taller they are, the worse it gets.

    My situation is similar to yours, living next door to 2,500 miles of fire rds in the Stanislaus national forest.

    My weapons of choice were a F800gs, that still needed $2,000 in suspension up grades and a KLX 680, a more dirt orientated KLR with a HP boost from the factory. With a big bore and all the other tricks, I am still searching for more HP for the road. Like a proud parent, I like to show it off.


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    My advice is to go test ride the Terra and decide for yourself. It sounds like a pretty good highway compromise, it is the dirt portion I would like to test. The dyno says it puts 48hp to ground which is what I think is acceptable. The above bike is close, but no cigar......yet.

    The China connection? It will keep coming up. BMW and Loncin have long term connection.

    To the best of my knowledge, Rotax no longer makes the F650 engines or parts. Loncin had assembled Rotax parts for several years but now manufacture the complete engine starting with the G650 bikes. They have used that engine in their own bikes under license to BMW.

    Loncin did not design this engine, it is still based on the Rotax engine. This one has some newly designed parts, so maybe those are made elsewhere. Just like the assembled engines, they are shipped back for final bike assembly.

    Loncin is the worlds largest motorcycle engine manufacturer. The plant is huge, modern and highly automated. I would not worry about quality and like it or not it is more common place than most buyers think.

    Adv Grifter is correct about cost of one. It only starts with buying it. You will have to consider wind and bike protection.
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  2. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Ever ridden a KTM 640E ? :rofl ... or an early Husaberg? Those bikes will rattle your fillings out. The DR650 is a Rolls Royce by comparison.

    I owned a KTM Duke ll ... which was much smoother than the 640 dual sport and Adventure, but far from smooth. Not sure why the difference. KTM exex. claimed dual pipes on the Duke smoothed out vibes. :huh
    The DR and KLR are WAY smoother than all the KTM's.

    And if you think a 955i Tiger is smooth ... come ride my Tiger 1050 :clap
    Next try the Tiger 800.
    I've owned a 885 Steamer, 955i girlie and now the 1050 Roadie. The 1050 is leagues ahead ... but sucks off road.
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  3. NJ-Brett

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    No, but I did think the dr650 was a very smooth bike.
    And from what I read, some if not most of the new KTM's are very smooth.

    Much different from when bikes did not have the balance setup.

    Bit I suspect some riders would think the DR650 is nasty vibration wise...
    Spoiled rotten we are.


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  4. jon_l

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    I can't see how the Versys is much better than what you have now? Maybe a little lighter?

    V-Strom is no trail bike (I proved that with mine, though many / most ride 'em better than me).

    A lightly used 690 is about the same or less than a 650 Terra. Either would work. 690 lots better off-road (it is ~70 lbs lighter with higher spec components), probably pretty much equal on-road.

    For less money, a low mileage 640 Adventure could be a great choice, as could a DR650, though they won't keep up with Wifey's twin.
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  5. itsatdm

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    Another pet peeve of mine is the lack of fuel range. KTM and BMW seem to feel the better the mileage the smaller the tank. 150 miles to empty is not enough in some parts of the west.

    The 690 fix to that is about $700 and there is not one for the Husky Terra yet. Those fuel tanks under the seat are great until you want to add some. At least the Carb'd bike tanks are relative cheap.
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