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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by DAKEZ, Jul 9, 2008.
Please explain how a car can fit into a lane occupied by a bike. Thanks.
Thank you. That was me in the video.
I actually grew up not far from you, Kirbyville/Jasper area.
I've had one try... Got a boot in his door as a result.
They painted this nifty 'moto lane' up 66 between 123 and Nutley. Extra room bay-bee! (Haven't ridden it yet tho.)
Last I checked, there was no IQ test for motorcycle operation. His other argument, 'you all wouldn't like it if cars did that to you', is also bunk. If I want to allow a car to come to the front or make a right turn, I'll straddle the line, if not, I won't. If a driver wants to straddle the line, that's his/her prerogative, not that it'll affect me much.
You have no idea what my IQ is. You have no idea of anything about me besides my feelings about all 50 states splitting and yet you bring my IQ into this. You probably haven't noticed that I haven't insulted anyone for their riding choices.
Sometimes I'm glad I'm not one of the gang.
Get a Speed Triple. When you ride a Speed Triple there always seems to be a car in front of you. You pass it and before you know it there's another... and another ... and another...
Let's all go to Waynesboro, PA and pass Ray in his own lane. I hear he likes that.
ray h I know you believe what you are saying but you are coming across as an idiot. You have no logic to your posts.
That is some good riding through the city. I do not have that opportunity. Tyler really doesn't have traffic anywhere near that.
How did you make it to DC from such a small town? Although, a distant cousin of mine from Center went to the Air Force and somehow ended up being one of the official White House photographers :eek1 She traveled the world for all of Bush's last term, and the first two years of Obama. So many pictures of their trips, it is really cool. She is now teaching and going to grad school at Georgetown. All that from a country girl from tiny Center, TX.
I am 100% pro filtering/sharing, but as a truck driver I can relate why professional drivers don't like it.
Long vans step in several feet on turns, double and triple trailers tend to drift and wander depending on road and wind conditions, plus being wider can all make having a bike that close a bit disconcerting.
But I must admit in 20+ years, and million+ of miles driving there has only been a couple of time it has been an issue, it seems even the most foolhardy riders respect the danger.
I wouldn't go to Lewis and Tomkins for legal advice.
In DC "
(a) A vehicle shall be driven as nearly as practicable entirely within a single
lane and shall not be moved from that lane until the driver has firstascertained that such movement can be made with safety;
Motorcycle riders lane split.
They ride their bikes.
Motorcycle drivers wont.
They drive their bikes like a car.
Same here, I was in the Military for many years.
That's about as clear as mud.
^ Wide loads do exist...
One thing I'd ask the naysayers is, have they ever ridden in a country where it is common/encouraged?
When I was filtering in the states, I found car drivers generally were surprised (and responded poorly) when I did it. In most big european cities, it is a lot more common to see them notice you and certainly not unusual for them to move over and let you pass.
Those of us advocating for sharing have probably ridden in CA or outside the country. Those that are saying 'its too dangerous' probably haven't done either.
Least that's been my experience. There IS the odd duck that does live in CA that won't lane share, but they're the oddballs, not the rest of us.
Now that is a good thought. A lane only wide enough for a two wheeler to run, illegal for vehiles that don't fit. That would make sense from a legal standpoint. Other vehicle operators would have no legal reason to question it and would be subject to prosecution if they break the law by cutting off or encroaching on said lane. If they want to use it - buy a bike!
I've talked with people who have driven in Europe and they said most drivers there will lane share in almost any circumstance.
A friend started a pass then some car was coming at him head on. A woman beside him in a Mercedes moved over to allow him to get in the lane to avoid the oncoming car. I don't remember all the specifics, but it wasn't him being reckless it was a situation that called for action and the Mercedes driver did the job, knowingly and willingly sharring the lane.
I've talked to riders who said if there was room a lot of drivers lane share with cars that are passing - essentially making a two lane road three lanes.
Yabbutt... that's Yurp. That shit won't fly here! They'll run ya into the oncoming car insteada moving.