Should Lane Splitting be legal in all 50 States

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by DAKEZ, Jul 9, 2008.

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Should Lane Splitting be legal in all 50 States?

  1. YES it should be made legal

  2. YES but ONLY on the Hwy

  3. YES but only for filtering at controlled intersections

  4. NO It is dangerous and should not be made legal

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  1. beechum1

    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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    anyone have any idea how many water cooled engines there are out there??? then the rest of us have to deal with overheating. of course, no one on the other side realizes this.

    then there's the atgatt, roasting in the protective gear that these F'in people give us little option but to wear to protect ourselves from the same people that say lane sharing is dangerous.

    Don't get me started.... Land of the free my ass.
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  2. guns_equal_freedom

    guns_equal_freedom Long timer

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    Except for the garbage barge BMW's.... :rofl
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  3. Mudcat

    Mudcat Unregistered

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    I find the vast majority of people are very courteous toward me on my bike. They make lane splitting fun. :D <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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  4. dwoodward

    dwoodward Long timer

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    Uh, R1150RT-P? :deal
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  5. bongodave

    bongodave Intellectual

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    Preach it, brother! Amen!:pope

    I have to add that my bike is water cooled, but has no fan. Move it or it cooks!
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  6. the darth peach

    the darth peach eats crackers in bed

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    I love California! Half of the reason I take my bike is so I can split during heavy traffic times.
    You just have to be SUPER careful and SUPER aware........
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  7. wjpjump

    wjpjump Been here awhile

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    make it legal in 49/50. probably no traffic in north dakota anyway
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  8. Mudcat

    Mudcat Unregistered

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    Nope, though my main bike is bumblebee, a very yellow one but I get the same treatment on my XR.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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  9. Le Barge

    Le Barge Adventurer

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    It should be illegal...It's dangerous and stupid and shouldn't be approved of by the government officially.....That being said ...
    I am all for the new philosophy of mine which clearly states that no thinking human should or will enforce some crappy law that is just plain ignorant .....I am a firm believer in the ...We don't screw around state philosophy ... The first state to addopt this as their motto and put it on their flag and into practice has me for a citizen..
    As good citizens we need to defy ignorant laws and make the sacrafice nessesary to change them ....or at least the guts to stand up against them ...
    Everyone knows Mac Donalds food sucks But how many of us will pick up a rock and throw it at the building in subtle protest......I see millions of stones and not a building in sight ..except for the guy next door making really good burgers ..and cowering a lil bit .
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  10. TheBigSteve

    TheBigSteve I wish my name was Dick.

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    How can you even say that with all the evidence that it's safer (already having been posted in the thread)?
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  11. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    :dunno
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  12. crazymactech

    crazymactech Adventurer

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    That is a idiotic assumption. Why would someone on an air cooled engine want to sit in traffic? I ride a Harley and lane split illegally so my engine doesn't over heat.

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  13. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades...

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    :huh
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  14. amr2ul

    amr2ul Machinery 2 Upper Level

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    Not sure how often I'd take advantage of it but it would be nice to have the option. Of course it will be a problem when misused in an irresponsible way by various redneck squids...
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  15. mistercindy

    mistercindy In a state of equilibrium

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    Couple of thoughts. First, I think the biggest opposition to lane splitting in America, whatever people may say about safety, is a combination of jealousy (ie., "I can't do it so why should he!?!") and particularly ignorance. I remember when I lived overseas how I was first exposed to lane splitting. I was driving on a busy city road in Johannesburg. At a stoplight a motorcyclist lane-split by me and it pissed off the ugly-American in me ("How rude!!!"). It didn't take but a day or two to realize that it was customary, perfectly legal, and safe. But try to convince most Americans of that and they will insist otherwise because they just don't know any better.

    Lots of comments about it being illegal in America, and a couple of comments about Texas. There is no law in Texas that specifically forbids lane-splitting. Rather, the law simply does not address it. If you lane-split in Texas and get a citation it will not be for lane-splitting. It'll be for some catch-all offense like "unsafe driving." It depends on the officer. If the officer is a motorcyclist then you probably won't get pulled over, or if you do, you'll only get a warning to be safe. I've heard of people going to court over lane-splitting, and if you get a judge who is a motorcyclist you stand a decent chance of being found not guilty. It again goes to American ignorance. While you do risk a citation for lane-splitting in Texas (and most places in the USA), its not because its specifically outlawed. Its because the American culture, including law enforcement, doesn't know any better.





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  16. EastSideSM

    EastSideSM Isn't that dangerous?

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    i lived in Cali for a number of years and I always enjoyed the ability to "share" lanes. It isn't that is legal, it just isn't technically illegal. I moved to Hawaii for a year where traffic was HORRENDOUS and just filtered all the time on my way to and from work until HPD's finest pulled me over one day to let me know that "this isn't the mainland" and he "didn't want to see me doing that again." Not to mention all of the people who got supremely pissed and would honk horns and sometimes even open their doors. If it is legal, there neds to be a public awareness campaign to educate drivers about the fact that it is okay and highlights the reasons it makes sense.

    I did it the other day driving into NY through Connecticut and got a lot of honking angry drivers riled up. I wasn't flying either, just making my way through almost completely stopped traffic. The last thing i want is someone to rear-end me as they are drinking their double mocha cappucino, talking on their cell phone and scolding the kids in the back seat as they read their morning paper.
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  17. Hatch

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    +1

    Its not something that could ever be 50 state legal everywhere all the time.

    the first problem to address is the entire system of licensing, making drivers more educated and qualified. this includes rider education. and tv commercials about watching for cycles and such.
    then you gotta consider where its a good place and where its not, which roads, which intersections, etc. and you'd have to make a sign system to inform people where splitting is allowed and where its not. then, maybe, it could work.

    but yea, while we're dreaming, lets decriminalize the weed too. im down.
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  18. tiger4me

    tiger4me Never to cold to ride!

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    soooo....is california the only state that allows it?
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  19. AKStrom

    AKStrom Just call me 'Magellan'

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    Not sure about Cali-style high-speed splitting here. I really do think they ought to de-criminalize filtering though.

    As it is right now if a local cop sees you filtering up through stopped traffic, you're likely to get a Rodney King.
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  20. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades...

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    It is interesting that, from what I understand, in Japan filtering is totally legal and expected. I have been told there were two lines at traffic lights, one where cars are to stop and one closer to the intersection for bikes to filter up. They know the bikes will accelerate quicker -even scooters do - and it is a time saver by closing up traffic, eliminating all those gaps created by having bikes sit in the traffic line. I am sure the safety factor comes in there somewhere too.

    Of course this would require intellegence, understanding, and courtesy to be applied in the U.S. None of which exists when people get behind the wheel; or legislators and law enforcement agencies take into account creating and enforcing laws. We're S.O.L. in that respect...:cry
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