Should Lane Splitting be legal in all 50 States

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by DAKEZ, Jul 9, 2008.

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Should Lane Splitting be legal in all 50 States?

  1. YES it should be made legal

  2. YES but ONLY on the Hwy

  3. YES but only for filtering at controlled intersections

  4. NO It is dangerous and should not be made legal

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  1. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    let us not forget that anything simply sitting in traffic is a HUGE WASTE of a fuel and causes lots of pollution. Why make the bikes waste fuel and pollute if they dont need to be? it just doesnt make any sense.
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  2. BykMyk

    BykMyk Been here awhile

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    split every day on my commute.
    Why my caged friends ask?
    Here are a few reasons:
    1. I'm sitting there breathing car fumes, you're texting in AC comfort.
    2. I'm wearing all my ATGATT, it's hot, you're reading in AC comfort.
    3. it's hard on the clutch and hand to crawl along at 3mph, you're eating in AC comfort.
    4. I'm freeing a car space for a soccer Mom, she's....beating the kid in the back seat.
    5. It's safer, you aren't going to rear end me while you're texting and beating your kid.
    6. I'm saving gas, you can use it for your SUV.
    7. I can get away from the sports car asshats that want to race a bike.
    9. 'cause I can!
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  3. begeberg

    begeberg That'll leave a mark..

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    Only folks I have seen do it are the crotch rocket types who don't do ATGATT. Looks dumb and dangerous; Here cagers will cut them off so the biker loses.

    Maybe if everyone knew it was legal and understood what was happening it would be safer to do but here cagers get really pissed about it.
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  4. specterunseenHouston

    specterunseenHouston n00b

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  5. tony the tiger

    tony the tiger Long timer

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    Yeah, that's what it said in the other forum, too... why don't you want "debate"?
    I attended the WA legislative hearings a couple years ago, and there were good arguments against lane sharing by motorcyclists and legislator's alike.
    Those in favor of the bill were not as well prepared. :doh
    Mebbe' you'll have better luck in Tejas, but you may as well hear what the opposition has to say... before they're testifying in front of your legislature.
    :lurk
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  6. drakehouse

    drakehouse Burnin' & Turnin'

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    Our city has but in may bicycle lanes.
    Lets clear off part of the shoulder/inside median dedicate lane.
    If not dedicated lanes, then allow shoulder usage when pure congestion exists.
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  7. Benjava

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    I hope you're not actually serious. Tell us you're not that moronic.
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  8. SocalRob

    SocalRob Long timer

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    I suspect you were trying for sarcasm, but I'm pretty certain it is legal. Thats what we have here, lane sharing. I have no problem with sharing my lane with a responsible cage. Its exceptionally rare that a cage has done that but it has happened.

    You do know that the true reason CA allows lane sharing at all is the CHP Motors did not want to give up the right to do it themselves while not on emergency response? I would think as a Motor you would be solidly in the lane sharing camp. The CA Motors are wizards at the split, and for me it is as entertaining as a good canyon ride to fly behind a Motor while on the split. I have followed Motors at a good 75 mph in 55 mph traffic.
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  9. robtharalson

    robtharalson Old, bold rider

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    In my 50+ years of riding, and (oh, let's see ... haven't figured it lately) 38 years of lane sharing on all roads where it is possible I've never had an accident and only a couple of close calls when doing it. In fact in three instances it has saved me from involvement in accidents that would have been very bad, if not fatal! Most of the time cars will try to give me more room even when I don't need it, and I always try to acknowledge their efforts with a friendly wave. Another aspect of it is I try to make drivers aware of problems with their cars, such as a low tire or brake lights out, and it is always appreciated. I have waved cars into my lane, usually dropping back to make sure the car behind me doesn't fill the slot I've cleared, then splitting past them, and invariably get a most enthusiastic wave of thanks. The point is lane sharing (careful use of words here) means being part of traffic, not separate from it, as many motorcyclists seem to assume.

    One memorable incident comes to mind -- on the 10 fwy during "rush hour", there was an accident about a mile ahead that stopped traffic almost completely, and as I was splitting came up next to a LEO car and offered to give him a ride to the scene, which he declined (he was alone in the car), but gave me his walkie talkie and asked if I would be willing to give him a report of the accident and injuries, which I agreed to do. When I got there I reported back on the license numbers, position in lanes, extent of injuries, and condition of the lanes not directly affected. Fortunately there were only minor injuries, most notably a scalp laceration that was not deep but bleeding copiously, and I calmed her down while holding a handkercheif against it until an ambulance arrived. I still get Christmas cards from her, and got a commendation from the police.

    Lane sharing, if done properly, is safer than sitting in traffic, and there is no doubt in my mind that it has made me a better rider by teaching the finer points of reading traffic and deadly accurate control inputs: an inch off from your intended path can be a disaster! Needless to say, I voted for legalization.

    Rob
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  10. GSjoyride

    GSjoyride Been here awhile

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    it works wonderfully in LA traffic,
    in San Fransisco traffic,
    in Sacramento traffic,
    in Santa Cruz traffic......

    it's become so customary, that the cagers create a wide
    berth right down the middle.......

    well except the errant :asshat

    or the antique grandma:baldy

    or the person having a bad day:fyyff

    SO lighten up, pay attention and let us
    PASS :thumb:thumb:thumb


    Cheers:ricky
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  11. jfurf

    jfurf Been here awhile

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    Is there anywhere in the world outside the U.S. where lane splitting and filtering isn't customary?

    I wonder why lane splitting never became the practice here in the U.S. I know in France and Italy drivers often consider traffic signals/markings to be "suggestions" rather than mandatory commands. I've lived in France and one thing I can tell you is that the U.S. seems to have WAY WAY WAY more police officers patrolling for traffic offenses.
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  12. Advntr

    Advntr Dilbert

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    I voted in the poll,
    I lane split where ever necessary, loud horns typically keep the nasty cagers in line. Always smile and keep moving.

    Filtering sounds like a politically correct way to say
    "All motorcycles to the front"
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  13. slartidbartfast

    slartidbartfast Love those blue pipes

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    OK, I voted yes but there would need to be some sort of control - otherwise bikers would wreak havoc. Note that in the UK lane splitting is illegal whereas filtering is legal (go ahead and try to define the difference).

    The US is about the only country I know of where lane splitting is not allowed (except California of course). Unfortunately, I believe that most states may be too far gone for it to be practical to change now - even though I'd like to see it.

    Everywhere I've ridden between lanes, 90%+ of drivers are aware you are there and most of those will move over to let you through. In the US, I would expect a good proportion of drivers would deliberately close the gap. Have had numerous Louisiana drivers very deliberately move to run me off the road rather than let me pass on the shoulder when I experimented with sneaking past rather than remaining stuck in a solid, barely moving jam in sweltering heat, etc. Selfish pricks would risk killing someone rather than let them "get ahead".
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  14. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    So it has been about what (?) six months or so since I started this thread.

    There have been a lot of great posts.

    As to the poll… it would appear that the answers is a resounding



    HELL YES IT SHOULD BE LEGAL!!!

    HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE.
    Be safe and:

    RIDE RIDE RIDE
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  15. Allgo

    Allgo No Whammy,No Whammy,STOP!

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    There's just something about a million lane splitting stoners that worries me....
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  16. bomber60015

    bomber60015 Anatomically Correct

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    There was a bill in Illinois that would have made lane splitting legal -- sadly, it was coupled to a helmet law -- the "helmets are dangerous" crew came out in force and it never made it out of committee . . . . ..

    I was thinkin I'd LOVE to be able to legally split lanes here in teh Land O Lincoln, but I didn't think I'd do much of it the first year or so . . . .we got some fairly territorial drivers round here . . . .
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  17. dwestly

    dwestly Refuses to Grow Up!

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    Although I had ridden in CA before, I had never done any lane-splitting, until last year when my wife and I rode out there on a x-country trip. Before we got there, we said were not going to lane split while there. Then, while we were leaving Laguna Seca raceway one day after the races, we ran into about 6 miles of backed up traffic. Bikes came past us, lane splitting right up the center, and we thought "what the heck...", so off we went. We learned very quickly how to lane split safely. We were immediate converts. The only trouble is that CA drivers expect m/c's to lane split, so they aren't surprised when bikes whiz past them. I don't know how it would work if drivers unfamiliar with it would react, if it were instituted in other states.
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  18. bemiiten

    bemiiten League of Adventures

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    As a auto driver, I wouldn't want bikes rapidly appearing and sharing part of my lane. IMO, The only time a motorcyclist should be able to lane split is during periods of extended stop and go traffic.
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  19. SocalRob

    SocalRob Long timer

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    Why? We promise we will not hurt you.:lol3 The "rapidly appearing" thing is not really a problem if you are paying any sort of attention, and if you are not paying attention the bike is most likely past you before you know its there.

    I guess you should not drive a car or ride a bike in CA.:lol3
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  20. scorch

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    Filtering and splitting is great, until you get some close calls from cars that want to stop you, and then you realize it might not be worth it.

    Its a backwards place, CA seems to know. But they have all year weather and realize motorcyclists are a bigger percentage of the population. The people who put away their bikes for winter the first sight of 50 degree weather are to blame. I fyou ommuted year round on them, cars would be used to seeing us out there more often. And people realize that motorcycles are tranportation and not toys. To some of us.