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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by 2whlrcr, May 14, 2006.
Yeah, you'd think this wasn't a kayak forum.
I'm definitely not a kayak snob, but some of the department store rec boats are just too flimsy. If the hull can be compressed with my hands, like squeezing a one quart oil jug, it's really one step above a pool toy. Got to have foot braces (foot pegs). You are the engine so your butt will tend to slide forward without them. Got to have foam floatation in the ends.
I found a used boat at a garage sale and I am happy. Avoid boats kept outside, UV rays kill plastic just like on bikes.
Wear a pfd, know how to swim, stay out of the water when it's cold at first, safety is common sense just like on a bike.
I was scared about being trapped in an upside down boat at first. In 4' water with a friend wading right there I turned my boat over on purpose. Every single time I fell right out.
Good advice. Almost everyone is fearful of being "trapped upside-down" in a capsized boat until they become familiar with them. It's pretty funny how quickly and easily you pop out of there in a capsize, actually. In fact, I had to fight that when I was learning to Eskimo-roll.
I found a Wilderness Systems Pungo on cl a couple of years ago. Marketed as a fishing/recreational kayak, but I don't fish. What you get is a roomier cockpit and a bit more stability than some of the sleeker units, without losing much in maneuverability or speed. Mostly lake use, but planning to take it on the (slow) Kansas River this summer. On faster water, it might not be as responsive as you'd want, but for mild stuff it should do fine.
Wife has a Wilderness Systems Tsunami, which she loves. My overweight ass doesn't like getting in and out of it as well as the Pungo, and she can't outrun me with it.
KC Paddler is having the spring demo day this Saturday. Its a great chance to try out a whole slew of boats. It can get expensive, though.
Yep. Got the email today. We did indeed spend some money after a couple of them. Wife got the Tsunami, then the kid got an Acadia Scout (great kid's kayak which may be for sale this summer). I went the KLR C.B route and bought mine used for 30% of list.
Here's my latest homebuilt Greenland style folder (Falco 16) . Since all parts fold inside the boat rather than being a take-apart like commercial folders,
assembly requires just 6 minutes. The smaller version (Falco 12) assembles in under 4 minutes.
Other than the keel there are no stringers, just hinged plywood hull sides with a PVC deck and hull bottom.
I started designing and building folding kayaks years ago specifically to combine riding and kayaking.
Falco 12 at the lake...
Falco 12 before attaching the PVC deck, hinged deckridge, and folding coaming.
The Sprint doing what it does best .... Everything
The toy box !
Yostwerks, all very VERY impressive, your boats, bikes and garage!
You must really have the mfg of the boats down to sell them for so cheap.
Are you able to brace well inside the boat and does the cockpit coaming hold a skirt tightly?
I'm interested in more info. Very nice. What a great idea.
Thanks for sharing. Mark H.
Thanks Mark ! The cost is for building materials only as I sell nothing.
My free website provides design drawings, offsets, and building instructions
for numerous kayaks I've designed though the latest Falco folders will not
be included in the manual until they are thoroughly tested.
http://www.yostwerks.com/ - kayak building manuals ( 3 types of SOF kayaks)
The Falco's are not yet set up for bracing / rolling, but that can easily be done. The coaming is 1/2" aluminum
tubing which holds both a sea sock and spray skirt very securely.
Here's a couple of different style folders I've designed ... Aluminum / HDPE frames and PVC skins
Sea Glider PVC skin with aluminum tube coaming..
A Sea Rover folding kayak at the Greenland National Championship rolling competition
A Nikumi Iqyax non folding wood frame with clear vinyl skin ....
Nikumi Iqyax ( Baidarka)
Here's my Sea Bee woodstrip. It's unusual in that it's built using no fiberglass. Instead, two layers of woodstrips are glued together using only epoxy resin.
Its totally awesome to run into your posts here on adv. Ive been eyeing your designs for a few years now. Beautiful designs, really wonderful website.
I built a S+G guillemot night heron a few years ago and really want to move on to one of your designs. I no longer really have space to build, so Ive been hoping to organize some people to build some together at my new paddling club.
Thanks for your comments ... A group build is a great way to share resources and knowledge. Having someone in your
club already experienced with the building techniques will make the process a bit easier. What kayak design are you planning to build ?
Here's a 2-part video by the Yonkers paddling and rowing club building a small "fleet" of Nikumi's.
http://yostwerks.com/Jack095.html - at the link scroll down to find the video's
Good luck with the project
Ive only met jack very briefly in passing, but Ive paddled one of the baidarkas he built which now belongs to a friend of mine (tried it at the hudson greenland fest last year). A whole bunch of people I used to guide with are members over there at the YPRC and some have mentioned their willingness to help if I get stuck building a SOF. Its probably not going to happen until next year at least, though (Im doing too much traveling right now).
The model Id prefer to build is the sea rider. Id love to build a folder I could take overseas with me when Im working abroad like I am now, but I can visualize all the steps involved with the wood frames and I don't feel as comfortable with the metal/hdpe process.
Anyone ever kayak the NM part of the San Juan river, the Navajo Dam to 4 Corners monument?
Looking for a good beginner touring trip. It's supposed to be 98 miles and pretty tame.
Here's a few pics from riding / paddling yesterday.
Falco folding kayak on board...
24 lbs / 5 minute assembly ... Assembly starts once the kayak is unstrapped from the bike.
Same inlet in today's much better morning light.
Damn you Tom, now I'm gonna have to built Falco when you release all the details. I've been using my Sonnet 16 for maybe 4 years now- it travels nicely on my Strom & even better in my sidecar rig. Last year I acquired a 4 pc carbon Greenland paddle,so it's a very compact package.
People I paddle with usually laugh at me when I start putting my Sonnet together & bring it to the water. Comments like "I can loan you a boat so you can keep up" are normal. At the end of the paddle, they are usually asking me were they can get one as I tend to finish at the front of the pack. No names, but one time, some of these "other paddlers" owned or were president / CEO types of the kayak manufactures, paddling their latest carbon wonder boats.
I have organized group kayak builds if anybody wants to bounce some ideas around.
I printed out one of Tom's 13 foot designs a couple years ago, but so far, that's all I've done. I need a place to build it. I'm thinking the middle of the back yard may work this summer. The garage would work, but it seems I don't own it any longer.
My 90's Wenonah Rendezvous off the Dunedin Causeway Fl
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Lake Tsala Apopka Fl
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Since there isn't a Stand Up Paddleboard thread and I do have a couple of kayaks back home in Hawaii I thought maybe this might be the spot.
This past saturday I paddled the Rhine River from Oberwessel to Saint Goar past the Lorelei (nasty spot in the river with a Siren Legend of luring
ships to the rocks, still get a barge or two every year). I've never worn a PFD on a SUP before but thought it might be prudent on this ride,
the water was to say the least interesting with all sorts of oddball currents and big boils probably has something to do with the river going from
400+ meters wide upstream to 200ish meters wide in the area where I was.....
There was a cool little beach on the south side at about the 2/3 point and I pulled in to relax for a bit.
I think I'll take open ocean swells any day over that river run.
Edited to minimize Texan Word Wrap. Sorry....