Show us your sidecar suspensions!

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by rantingsmith, Mar 18, 2017.

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If you bought an existing sidecar, have you upgraded, or thought about upgrading its suspension

  1. No, it performed well enough.

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  2. Yes, but not sure how to.

    7 vote(s)
    18.9%
  3. Yes and I have.

    18 vote(s)
    48.6%
  4. No, but I woud if I could get a bolt on upgrade.

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    8.1%
  1. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    Out of sight , out of mind is good as long as it's not squeaking.
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  2. RockyMtnRoadRash

    RockyMtnRoadRash Useful and decorative

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    Mine's great apart from the fact that the progressive shock's plastic cap rubs against the inside of the fender and binds a little bit.

    Reminder to anybody looking for an easy upgrade: Ratbag Vstrom shock with remote preload adjuster still available for come git it or ship it. Comes with free bonus road cheese.
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  3. Old Mule

    Old Mule Long timer

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    If you do a g**gle image search of the term "suspension Gregoire", you will find some very strange motorcycle and car suspension designs... he did a sidecar one too, but I cannot find a picture of it. I saw one once years ago, and it was inexplicable, like many Gregoire designs. I stared at it for a while, made a sketch that looked like an Escher drawing, and gave up.
    Maybe one of our Continental inmates can find a picture of his system and explain it?
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  4. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    Yours doesn't squeak? What's your secret? :ear
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  5. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    Lard drip.
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  6. cog8603

    cog8603 Been here awhile

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    here's my very highly sophisticated, highly adjustable, high end engineering marvel on my current car. IMG_20170319_162811.jpg
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  7. rantingsmith

    rantingsmith Quadrilingual blacksmith seat of pants engineer

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    I think this is similar to what I'll end up building onto the Watsonian maybe with the adjustment option à la Claude and a lard drip bucket..:lol3
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  8. cog8603

    cog8603 Been here awhile

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    if you want, I can custom-dent the cap on the hub like mine. :lol2
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  9. rantingsmith

    rantingsmith Quadrilingual blacksmith seat of pants engineer

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    :lol3 A bit like this you mean:
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  10. cog8603

    cog8603 Been here awhile

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    that's pretty close! :imaposer:imaposer:imaposer
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  11. RockyMtnRoadRash

    RockyMtnRoadRash Useful and decorative

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    My defacto answer to the question "How'd that dent happen?" is "That's custom."
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  12. Al Olme

    Al Olme Another Sidecar Guy

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    OK, this is a new style [not much different from the old style] EML suspension on a GT2.

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    The new version uses a bigger wheel and now allows you to bleed the brake. The old version cut off the top of the bleed nipple so you took off the wheel, inserted a whole bleed nipple, bled the brake, carefully removed the whole bleed nipple and carefully inserted the cut off version. It usually worked but was not the best work flow.

    The new version uses a slightly shorter swing arm and no longer calls for the "weird" washer with the drilled tab. Despite much conjecture about what the washer did, it was just a place to hang a spring that kept the brake line out of the way. Also, while we had all this in pieces we checked and NONE of this stuff hides any eccentrics that might influence toe-in.

    This sidecar is now surplus as I have replaced it with a Tremola 2. Any interest?
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  13. DirtyDR

    DirtyDR Dana

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    Here is the older EML suspension.

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  14. Al Olme

    Al Olme Another Sidecar Guy

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    The single suspension was a lot different from the doubles. This is a picture of what was on the GT2 when I got it. I believe that it was a mid to late 80's version. It had the old style twin hinge hatch. P1010220.JPG
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  15. BigFatAl

    BigFatAl Been here awhile

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    Completely homebuilt ...
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  16. mantree

    mantree Been here awhile

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    Current setup is stock. I am trying to figure out a shock setup

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  17. High Octane

    High Octane Long timer

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    Ok here's one of mine. Built by Bill McSheehy.

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  18. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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  19. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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  20. Old Mule

    Old Mule Long timer

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    Which is better, trailing or leading arm?
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