Show us your TransAlp modifications!

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by modrover, Apr 13, 2004.

  1. Bonnie & Clyde

    Bonnie & Clyde Wishing I was riding RTW

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    mas335
    xendurist
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    Sounds right to me. Did you disconnect and remove the side stand indicator light switch, I don't see it. End Qoute


    So is there a step by step of the side stand switch elimination? Ive been thinking that getting rid of my switch would be good for remote travel less to go wrong type thing
  2. Dr E

    Dr E Chasing after theory

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    Well, I finally completed reading all 13904 posts in this thread and I will tell you it was like being back in graduate school with the amount of information that is thrown out in this thread. My goal was to have it done by Thanksgiving but things came up and it took a tad bit longer. From all this reading, I have compiled 268 pages of detailed notes which tracks part numbers, modifications, enhancements, trouble spots and alternative solutions and will be used in my build.

    I need to go through and organize all of my notes in to their sections and update my required parts list. I think what I will do is turn this into a PDF and post it on Google Docs so if anyone wants a copy of my crib notes drawn from almost 9 years of accumulated data here. Did I capture everything? Not by a long shot!

    Reading this thread is like going on a search for gold as some of the more unique finds (such as websites, parts suppliers and even hard to locate part numbers) tended to be in the single line replies that are posted. You guys are sneaky!

    Technical data is not always the only thing found here, I have learned a lot about many of you and I will tell you right now, I will by anyone here a beer if you are in my neck of the PNW! If giving was a way to become a millionaire...all of you are wealthy beyond comparison. There are also a few funnies that I have learned about many of the people in this thread and thought I would share:

    Things I have learned:


    Michael has a heart the size of Everest!

    Ray knows 99.998 percent of the cumulative information on the TA

    Mark has a secret manufacturing shop for body parts (the TA that is...)

    Carlos has the crappiest weather of everyone on the forum and barely gets to ride yet he came up with one of the coolest garage built shock risers I have seen

    Jeff has more toys they he should

    Wait…Ray does knows everything

    Dan has an Hawk conversion is fantastic

    Menasco Pirate owns close to every bike built

    Ray is like the Chuck Norris of knowledge for TA’s

    Jim sells really cool parts, sadly I can’t use all of them

    Santa brings presents more than one day a year… and is a good friend to have .

    Thunder Dan has increased the TA riders by +2 which was great news!

    Showkey is the expert here on Honda inventory and policies, I secretly think he is a Honda undercover engineer or something like that! (Stolen from Ray)

    Favorite quotes I found:

    FAVORITE RAY QUOTE:
    ....dang. I didn't know I could quote myself like that.
    .....I outta be a democrat.

    Second favorite:

    Warped rotors are the poor-man's ABS

    Favorite Jim Quote after a very long lesson on carberators from Ray:
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  3. Lomax

    Lomax Nanu-Nanu Adventurer

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    Rod,

    Thank you so very much and sorry for the really late reply. It looks like the muffler sticks out about 4 & 1/8 from the original tail rack. It does come up quite a bit in the rear and it might be hit or miss if the 5 & 1/2 down from the stock rack would fit. It sounds like it will be worth a try and if nothing else I break out the welder and customize some more. :lol3

    I have no idea if you can see what I am talking about in these pictures but I will try.

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    DOH I really need to paint that rear rack don't I. :shog


    Thanks again.

    Marc
  4. Ladder106

    Ladder106 It's a short cut, really

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    According to my research (5 minutes spent at Wikipedia...God Bless the interweb) Callimachus was the first one to write bibliographies and begin to catalog the Great Library at Alexandria.

    Now, since DrE has spent all this energy bashing about in the basement, hitting his head on floor joists and eating cold pizza while sifting through the dusty parchments of this thread, I think we should nominate him for the title of "Librarian". [this is also a cool title if any of you are Halo players].:deal

    DrE is just the kind of smart, detail-oriented, persevering, not-easily-frustrated, person we require for this position. I'll let him explain what he does for a living if he wants to share but it involves lots of loose electrons.

    Anyways....he gets my vote for the esteemed title of "Transalp Librarian"

    :y0!.....YES PLEASE !

    OK..DrE, now all you have to do it to get one of the moderators to let you subdivide this thread so all this stuff is easy for the rest of us who were too lazy to do it back a few years ago when it was managable.
  5. Ladder106

    Ladder106 It's a short cut, really

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    Thanks, DrE, for the recent compliments

    ...but I have a confession. I've have, so far, never split the cases on a Transalp or AT engine.

    The real knowledge base on this thread is MAS335.

    I just tend to shoot my mouth off more often than he does (not that he actually "shoots his mout off"....he's just much more ....uhmmm....circumspect than I) ....so......

    Mark, You Da Man, man :bow
  6. Dr E

    Dr E Chasing after theory

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    Well, started on the tear down and I tell you, it never ceases to amaze me at what people consider an "appropriate" fix to a problem.

    OK, your on a ride and drop your bike, cracking your side panel:

    A) You buy a replacement panel
    B) You take the panel off and fix it in proper fashion
    C) You glue the panel together with fabric tape, hot glue and duct tape and a cheap epoxy...and just to make sure it sticks together you glue it to the radiator shroud for good measure!

    Well, it wasn't A or B!

    I have my work cut out on the right side panel repairing it (unless someone has a right large fairing they would like to sell). Another thing that the PO did for what ever reason was to cut the handle bars making them at least 2" inches shorter on each side??? Oh, this was my favorite, how do you hold your windscreen on to the fairing if you don't have the correct fastener? If you said, toggle bolt you are right! Not one, or two...but four toggle bolts!

    Fortunately the wiring has not been chewed up and there is almost zero rust on any of the components including the exhaust. So her bones are good, but the body needs to be cleaned up and proper fasteners used.

    Oh well, half the fun of an older bike is fixing it up. I was just shocked by the level of ineptitude shown in putting her back together.

    Eric
  7. Lomax

    Lomax Nanu-Nanu Adventurer

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    It is amazing some of the stuff you see when doing an old bike right. Good for you bringing it back up to spec. :clap

    Marc
  8. mas335

    mas335 xendurist

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    Eric, Eric Eric......you haven't seen anything yet.



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  9. Dr E

    Dr E Chasing after theory

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    I remember that earlier in this thread! I could hide a dead body and three major crashes in that paint scheme as this what happens when the Lucky Charms Leprechaun drinks to much!

    Eric
  10. Jim Rowley

    Jim Rowley Rise above

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    In case anyone is converting their TA into an AT, I have some parts for sale in FM.
  11. Lomax

    Lomax Nanu-Nanu Adventurer

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    Thank again Jim,

    I got to do a good ride today and the more I ride it the more I am liking it. What a fun bike and you set it up VERY well. :clap

    There be Buffalo and mountains and snow. :lol3

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    Marc
  12. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod I want to do right, but not right now

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    One thing I noticed on my TA. The previous owner had installed a K&N airfilter. On the end of the airfilter where it seals with the snorkle to the carbs there was a foam doughnut.

    Now I know there is already a lipped seal in the airbox...

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    ..which would be #4 in the diagram.

    Not being a fan of K&N filters I ordered a stock filter and installed it without the foam doughnut. (foam doughnut would fit on the bottom of the filter between the filter and #4) When I installed the new filter I was a little bothered because if felt like the filter bottomed out on the outside of the airbox before it came into contact with #4. So I check it. I smeared some grease on #4 and re-installed the filter and snugged it up with the screws. I removed the filter and found no transfer from #4 to the bottom of the filter meaning that, on my bike, the stock filter would allow unfiltered air into the motor.

    I though maybe the #4 seal was worn so I purchased another one. Same issue, no grease transfer to the filter body. So I used some grease to stick the foam doughnut to the bottom of the filter and when installing it this time the filter clearly bottomed out against #4 before bottoming out against the outside of the airbox, so tightening the screws snugged everything up to properly filter the air.

    Long story short (I know, too late) maybe my TA isn't the only one with a poor seal at the bottom of the air filter, so maybe there's more dirty air ingestion causing ring wear, cylinder wear, and valve stem wear making the motors consume more oil.

    :freaky YMMV.

    I have no idea where the foam doughnut came from, it's not on any fiche I've looked on, and assume it's something that came with the K&N filter that the PO installed. :dunno

    Doughnut example...

    [​IMG]

    ..same square cross section, though mine was black with and ID and OD just smaller and larger than the diameter of the #4 seal. Maybe 3/4-1" wide and perhaps 1/4" thick, maybe a little more.
  13. Ladder106

    Ladder106 It's a short cut, really

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    Good catch Boon,

    I've been using a home-built foamy filter for quite a while now and when I built it the rear seal was something I paid particular attention to.

    It's interesting to note that the standard filter may not fit correctly. It's certainly something everyone should spend a few minutes and a few dabs of grease to check.
  14. ric678

    ric678 Been here awhile

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    I almost bought this one when it was up for auction
  15. tuffgong

    tuffgong Bon Pilote

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    A PDF would be fine thing.Your work will be much appreciated.
  16. Dr E

    Dr E Chasing after theory

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    I will work on it this week and see how far I get. I have a couple of folks that I want to proof it for content since modifications and advise changes over 9 years, and than I get it posted. :freaky
  17. old2wheeler

    old2wheeler Former nÔÔb

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    I took some pictures and numbered them this morning; they are at http://s1208.beta.photobucket.com/user/Old2wheeler/library/TA Rack
    Send me an email (rodhouse at mac dot com) if you can't see them.

    I see a likely interference in the way that your muffler angles up as you noted in the second sentence above.

    My pictures #5 & #3 lead me to think the length of your muffler will not interfere with the rear rack bracket that ties the two sides together.

    Also your first picture seems to me like your muffler sticks out to the side less than the stock, which is a good sign.

    If you look at my #'s 1, 2, 7, & 10, you will see that the stock muffler is pretty level whereas yours angles up. That is where it looks like there might be the interference we both are seeing.

    If this isn't clear drop me an email and I'll attempt my explanation with the actual pics. If all else fails we might consider meeting somewhere in between for an actual comparison. Good luck,

    Rod

    PS: Don't compare the scratches on your rack to my bike; I bought mine from the east coast Mark(sp?): mas335. It is an immaculate example of his work!!
  18. mas335

    mas335 xendurist

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    Boon Booni, I have been thinking about your posting and I will have to admit I have seen a few that has less contact then I would like but I have never seen any filters that had no contact.

    I only see three reasons why a air filter would not shoulder against the inside seal:

    a) compressed inside seal caused prehaps by the K&N being a bit longer and deformed the seal

    b) After market air filter (Emgo, etc) that was not quite up to specs as oem filter length

    c) the rubber seal on the metal filter top lip is too think or miss aligned and is keeping the filter from seating properly on the air box opening.

    d) bad batch of filters that are a tad too short.

    "a" is out because you changed that seal,
    "b" is out becasue you bought a OEM Honda filter ( right?)

    It would be interesting to know just what the cause was. The seal on the metal filter lid is not critical because anything that sneaks past it is before the filtering process anyway but the other end is definately important.

    For anyone who may check their filter for this seat contact you should find a wear ring on the end of the filter can where is makes contact, the grease test is the best test.

    Another problem that I have seen is the seal at the air box end of the air tunnel and the rubber boot manifold that connects the tunnel to the air box, bottom side is the culprit trouble area, if the carbs have ever been pulled their is a 50/50 chance it is not connected correctly.

    [​IMG]
  19. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod I want to do right, but not right now

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    Yep, genuine Honda.

    My though is perhaps one of the previous owners had the wrong filter in there and distorted the airbox. :dunno
  20. mas335

    mas335 xendurist

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    That was another thought that I had but that would take some doing. I'm gonna blame the K&N filter length for "deforming" the air box. You never think about a stucture, in this case the air box, as being a critical component for a filter to fit right but if the air box width expands or too much seal material is added around that lid then that filter won't contact that inner intake seal.

    Kind of like that valve cover screw I mentioned earlier, the length of the machined shoulder on the screw body determines just the right amount of valve cover gasket seal compression. It limits you from over tightening the seal and possibly cutting it while at the same time putting the right amount of compression on the seal to keep it from leaking, that is as long as the seal is new.