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Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by Colebatch, Oct 18, 2012.
I read that as the F800 was not ideal for the job, not the crash bars.
Haha either that or a kill switch...
Wish I had one of those attached to me when my knee blew on the treadmill a few years back!
(And no, I'm not a geezer...just a fit 26 year old with a few extra "aches and pains" from life choices I've made!)
I guess so, makes sense. But while on the topic, I noticed that none of the bikes on the trip had bars fitted - again, except for the additional weight, any specific reason why nobody rides with them?
Every bike I've ever seen with "crash bars"...the bars just seem to prevent cosmetic damage.
Hi Walter, Gérard Depardieu is now a Russian citizen. You are next, because of your promotion and reverent attitude to RF.
Better late than never.
From what I read it was due to not wanting them to get tangled on brush and such. Makes sense to me with the quality of riders along on this trip.
I have them on my 990, but wouldn't give them a second though on the likes of any the 600cc odd DS bikes, be it the BMW, KTM, DR etc. waste of time IMHO on these little bikes.
The stock BMW 800 ones arent the best either, they bolt to the engine and can crack castings in an off.
I don't know if this is the case with the crashbars on the F800, but some crashbars will prevent a lot of cosmetic damage as said, but can also cause frame damage at the same time. Destroying you bike in what otherwise might have been some scratches, there arent any cilinderheads sticking out.
Another point might be that it makes the bike wider, but in this case the panniers are the widest point it seems.
I keep on being an avid reader, please continue!
You guys have spread the virus well, just got my first off road motorcycle (an old XR600R) for practising while in college.
13% flat tax - yeah i'll take on another nationality for that. But somehow I doubt I will get a personal invite to the Kremlin.
As for Depardieu - all the Russians I know keep making uncomplementary jokes about the guy. So please dont put me in the boat with him.
That boat would sink fast, Walter.
There are no crash bars because on a narrow bike crash bars dont actually protect anything.
Even on prutsers boxer - there are no crash bars - because the engine that sticks out is tough.
Have you ever seen a Dakar bike with crash bars??
We all crashed our bikes many times. I have dropped mine at high speed a few times. Dakar guys usually have a couple of spills during the Dakar. and their speeds are always high. And yet no crash bars. In the BAM Road video teaser from EtronX I posted earlier, loads of bikes falling down in rocks ... and yet no damage to the engines.
Crash bars really dont add value. It might look like they do. It might look like they add toughness. But in most cases the bike is tough enough. As someone said above - check where they attach. Is the attach point strong enough to handle the stress? Often the answer is no. In the main, they are bling that are sold by Touratech and their clones to make money. They are designed and marketed to look tough and create a tough image. But always go back to stuff like the Dakar bikes. They ride huge distances off roads, often very fast, often quite technical, sometimes in sand, often in rocks, for half a month, day in, day out. They crash the bikes. They spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to get there, for one race, once a year. They know they are going to have crashes, but if they hole an engine, their entire year, and all its money is wasted. AND STILL they dont have crash bars. That tells me all I need to know about the value of crashbars.
In the main, crash bars dont add any value .... but they do add weight and they do cost money.
On a lighter narrower bike they are never necessary. The handlebars and luggage keep the engine miles away from contacting anything. If you have a fat bike you might guard against cosmetic damage.
But on balance - I vote no to crashbars.
You need good handlebar protectors, and you need a good bashplate (again, go back to look at Dakar bikes ... thats what they use) ... the rest is usually just bling - with a few exceptions. On my XC I have also added protectors under the footpegs, but thats because on this particular bike, the back brake mechanism and side stand attachment can and do get hit. But thats purely bike specific.
Sorry for being so quiet for a few days. Sometimes a man has to work. I work in northern Norway and the weather has been pretty shait the last week. Here is a little link of what we do up north.
<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/21446294" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/21446294">EC225 Bristow Norway SAR Operations Hammerfest</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/etronx">EtronX</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
Awesome work...hat's off to you!!!
EtronX - Cool, my second cousin works for Bristow, He flies an S92 out of Norway to Oil Rigs. Great ride report once again Walter and friends.
No need for nationality. But if so, a youngster like Colebatch may have to do military service! :eek1
Residency is sufficient :
But the flat rate can be reduced to 6% of gross income* if your earnings are 'freelance' and invoiced as part of a 'Small Entrepreneurs Business"
* plus a small regular payment for Social/Health contributions.
No excuse! Take off of work to appease us with this ride report!
Aehm, Walter, maybe that is a truth with modifications, on your bike they might not add value, but on some they do.
It was a nice morning when we finally went to sleep. The Russian party crew did their best all night. I don't know what was worse the screaming and crying or the Russian 80's disco. I think they had what the commercials, for those who remember, called "component car stereo" It was loud.
When we finally went to sleep it was time to get up again :huh The ride to day was not of the longest, but we did have some items on the "to do" list before we set course. Steve needed some new tires and I said I could go with him to the store. It was beside the shop that we were at yesterday where Walter and I got our bikes straightened out.
For some reason Walters battery was flat that morning. He flies a light hitec LiPo battery. Need a special charger for that in order to balance the cells. But the Sibersky Extrem has been on the road before Here is how to jump start your bike.
<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/58123204" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/58123204">Trans Sibir eXpedition 2012 jump start</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/etronx">EtronX</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
Walter also did some preventive maintenance on the lights. Looked like one of the ballast's had died.
Usually when Murphy is around he visits three times. First was Walters flat battery and lights. Second was Terry's engine casing leaking oil. Third was my clutch cable.
We came about one kilometer before my clutch cable broke. "Fhat the wuck". It was brand new before I left Norway. Special made in the UK to my specifications. Longer than usual because of my Rox Risers. And now it broke This severely pissed me off.
Both Walter and Terry carry spare clutch wires. It is laid parallel to the original one. This is wise to to. I thought of it before I left home, but since I had a brand new one I didn't do it
When I think back on this trip and riding with Walter and Terry there are two things that stand out with those guys:
They don't get stressed when things brake down. It is just a fact and then they fix it. It might take a day or five. No worries.
They share what they have. It be clutch cables or brake pads. If they have one extra and you need one they will give it to you. It is not "mine" but "ours". I salute that
With regards to Terry; give the man some wire, a plier and some liquid metal and there is almost nothing he couldn't fix
Well, due to all the unforeseen circumstances that morning plans changed. Erik and Steve took of into Irkutsk. Walter, Terry and I got our bikes going and set course for Irkutsk. The plan was to meet the other guys for lunch.