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Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by Colebatch, Oct 18, 2012.
That is one hell of a story. Thanks for posting it.
No doubt you've heard the phrase "Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn" well here"s another to remember.
"Do Not Piss Off A Basque Spaniard " you have no idea of the shit storm that can create.
You think I'm joking, ask Franco, Oh wait he's still dead.
Well done for spotting that Tony ! .
We were nearing the end of the BAM and really glad of a bit of hardpack.....
Little did we realise what we had just explored..
Well, this guy can do it faster : Rofl
For the doubters; there's a laptop inside that Ortlieb softbag.
This was in 2005 and the (low end El Cheapo Acer travel something) laptop was just a tad too long to fit so I had to carry it diagonally and stuffed clothes in the two triangled spaces that were left.
The softbag was ripped off the bike when I (was fucking around one morning doing powerslides next to the road and) lowsided at around 70km/h (45 mph). The laptop didn't miss a beat. Come to think of it this was about the time where I didn't open that bag for about a week to ten days and when I went to use the laptop it was all bent so only three corners would touch the table at once. Took about a month before it flexed back to being level. Still works today, if you don't count that all the keys are scratched into the screen....
The Touratech front side pannier also ripped off, but both were fixed in a few hours with a roll of dentalfloss and a needle
Show me the appletinis !
FYI: The Rule for proper thread engagement into aluminum (top fork clamp) is 1.5 x Diameter. If your using M12 bolts (12 mm dia) you need a minimum of at least 18 mm of thread engagement to ensure the bolt will fail before the threads strip out of the aluminum. If you don't currently have enough thread engagement you should get some longer bolts.
In Terry's case it was the bolt that broke suggesting he had the correct amount of engagement (or used a thru bolt with a steel nut). Also, in the case of blind hole you also need to be careful to have enough extra hole depth so that the bolt does not bottom out before achieving the proper clamp load on the joint (generally indicated by achieving the proper amount of bolt torque during assembly). Again this did not appear to be an issue in Terry's case as it appeared he was able to remove the broken bit without a great deal of trouble.
At somebody already mentioned Stainless Steel bolts are not usually considered high strength. Bolts marked as 10.9 DIN are higher strength (approx equivalent to a Grade 5 in the USA), and probably a good option for clamping Aluminum parts together.
A couple of other things that can contribute to bolt failure are not having clean parallel surfaces at the clamp joint, and not having enough clamp load (a.k.a. bolt torque). Bolts are designed to act like springs and if the clamp load is to low the bolt goes through a high number of repeated stretching cycles during use. The result is early material fatigue of the bolt (like bending a paper clip back and forth until it breaks), and possible fretting and wear to the mating surfaces being clamped.
Great ride report Guy's.
Just watch my Terra Circa DVD for like the 4th time, still love it. Different time different bikes, great to watch. Is the 'Zilov Gap' part of the route you guys did or is it known as something else now. Cheers.
You could try and source some F9-11 hardware. I have seen these used on Suspension parts for Baja 1000 race trucks and I personally had a Shock pivot on a downhill bike that I would occasionally break... untill I installed the F9-11. Pretty tough stuff.
Is that Terry loading his bike up for the crossing?
Sorry to disappoint, but no... now that rod has cleared off home....
Hey gang, just wanted to say that this report is worth the wait, and more! Thanks so much! Can't wait to see whether you cross tracks with that French piano tuner again! That sounds like part of a dirty joke...no, that was something about a one-armed paper hanger, I think. Ride on!
The Zilov Gap (as named by Mondo Enduro and Terra Circa) was a gap in the Trans Siberian Highway (alongside the TransSiberian railway) prior to 2004. It is along the main cross country route, the Trans Siberian, and followed the Trans Sib Railway, 500 km to the south. We are by the rarely travelled BAM railway here. The Zilov Gap was between Aksenovo-Zilovskoye N53.0653, E117.5099 (local rail station is called Zilovo) and Magdagachi.
Most travellers along the Trans Siberian route in the old days took the gap from Chernyshevsky (a bit before Aksenovo Zilovskoye) to Magdagachi, but obviously, the Mondo Enduro (1995) guys boarded the train at Zilovo and gave the gap that name.
In 2001 when they made Terra Circa, the gap still existed.
In early 2004, a wide graded gravel road was completed linking up both ends of the Trans-Siberian highway - thus the gap was now bridged with a federal highway suitable for any vehicle including international / interstate 40 ton road trucks.
In mid 2004, Long Way Round passed through and stopped at the city of Chita (before both Chernyshevsk and Zilovo), claiming they didn't know if a road existed beyond there, despite everyone in Russia knowing it now existed and Putin being on TV months earlier proclaiming the main highway across the country open, and despite LWR having a research team of 4 full time people in London.
By 2010 the entire Trans Siberian highway was paved with wide, silky smooth asphalt. Again Putin returned armed with media posse and drove the highway in a Lada Kalina. (small 2wd car).
What was 10 years ago, the Zilov Gap, is now a smooth asphalt highway. The Zilov Gap died in 2004.
Note ... the only people who ever called it the Zilov Gap are western motorcyclists who have watch Mondo Enduro / Terra Circa. Thats a name given to the gap in the highway by Austin and Gerald Vince. The Zilov Gap is neither an official name nor a name any locals would recognise.
In any case, we were 500 km (300 miles) further north.
Its interesting info ... there are indeed a couple of roofed building there at that spot in the middle of nowhere. No roads. trails or anything. Amazing.
But it means the description of isolation is inaccurate. The story talks of 150 miles / 250 km from the nearest town. Its actually about a fifth of that ... just 52 km (32 miles) from Balykcha. a town in the Altai near the southern end of Lake Teletskoye ... and just 57 km (35 miles) from where we were in the Altai when we took this picture:
When in Google maps, turn on 'pictures'. You'll see geotagged pictures of those 'new' huts, believed to be built in Lykovs' place. More pictures made by the same photographer here, including those of Agafia Lykova: https://ssl.panoramio.com/user/193841/tags/%D0%9B%D1%8B%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%20%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BA%D0%B0 Pics were made in 2009.
Poor bugger. The video does show a couple of things though; that the rear mousse is not hollow, and that it can be cut right through, which some people say is easier to install. Actually, cutting the mousse is a way of changing the perceived pressure of it - cut out a small section to lower the perceived tyre pressure, or add in a bit of another mousse to bump it up. The latter is a common method to rejuvenate an ageing mousse, which shrinks over time, leading to a lower perceived pressure.
Is it possible the two towns you mention have been established since the folks were discovered in summer of 1978?
Amazing pics ... amazing that the story is still current.
No... I only mentioned one town ... its an old Altai town. In any case there are probably 50 towns within a 150 mile radius. A big town of Ulagan (we also passed through - with hotels and supermarkets) is 98 km away (61 miles) away. The capital city of the Altai republic is 175 km away (109 miles).
But you know how reporters write stories ...
The story is amazing enough, it doesnt need exaggeration to sell it.
Amazing story indeed.
Proves that isolation is relative to where you are. Might only be 50 miles or so, but as an old timer who probably now has a kettle, it would be very difficult for her to get to the shops for some more tea bags.
More BAM please.