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Discussion in 'Epic Rides' started by Colebatch, Oct 18, 2012.
What a trip, excellent pics and excellent videos.
Thanks for sharing.
A truly epic adventure.
Thanks to everyone for putting this ride report together.
Thanks C-Stain. Do you speak Norwegian as well? Our achievments were totally a team effort and neither of us could have done this trip solo. Especially big greetings to Walter and Terry for letting us come along. And especially to Walter for inspiring and sharing this with all of us. If it was not for Walter most of us would never heard of the BAM road and these great places in Russia! The best part is that he just shares all his knownledge, tech details, waypoints, routes and everything with all of us here. That is amazing and should really be applauded - We had an easier job following Walters tracks!
awesome ride report, i log on just to see were you guys are at!!!! keep it comin
... but not yet from everyone ;-)
So let me add a big THANK YOU to all of you for taking the time and sharing your adventures with the rest of us. I'm sure Siberia will see quite a bit more traffic in the future because of you. In fact, I'm wondering how long it will take for a Siberian version of the Stella Alpina to pop up, like a meeting at the Vitim bridge every 1st of August or something like this.... ;-)
Special thanks to Steve for the superb video, you are an artist !
Thank you. I am not often envious, but you group of wonderful inmates sharing you trip have made me so.
Thanks to all involved, what an incredible ride report. Had thought about the BAM, ROB, Russia before, but no must add to the list of things i have to do in my lifetime.
There should be an EPIC Ride Reports section of the forum. This one gets my vote for #1 spot.
Just wondering, are there any memorials along the ROB to the thousands (millions?) of slave laborers who died building it?
Awesome RR. It is inspiring as it is easy to forget that Africa is not the only wilderness left.
Just curious Erik Gran Kvaase - Does this mean Eric the big cheese?
Also there are gulag museums in Moscow and Khandyga and possibly other places
Thanks Walter for this entire RR and the above info, I knew the moment the question was asked you would step up and supply the answer
MANY MANY Thanks for all your effort and leadership on this ride and RR.
And the Mask Of Sorrow in post 4501 I presume.
Absolute cool video - thanx Steve
A technical question. which program did you use?
It seems that there was a video clip which was taken with a lower resolution (the clip at 09:00 minutes). How did you adjust that into the rest?
Yes indeed, tho its really more of a memorial to the people who died in the Kolyma in the whole gulag system.
There were two types of Gulags ... mining gulags and road building gulags. The roads were only build to support the mines. Up in the Kolyma they were mining gold, uranium and tin mainly. The road gulags were secondary - the road building gulags built the roads to get the tin, uranium and gold out. The Mask of Sorrows were for people who died in the whole Dalstroi gulag project in the Kolyma region - road building, mines, the lot.
The little monument in Tomtor is specifically for those who died (or even survived) building the Road of Bones, between Magadan and Khandyga.
There are no known numbers for sure. Many numbers bandied about are bound to have been under or over exaggerated or even guesswork that is not even in the ballpark of other guessworks. So no one can even give a useful estimate. I have heard that 2 million people died in the Kolyma gulags altogether, and 700,000 of those died building roads. That seems kinda high in my view, when you consider the infrastructure up there, the limited port facilities that would have existed in Khandyga and Magadan back in the 1940s, and having seen the size of some of the gulags.
Also a lot of the stories such as the reason the Road of Bones got its name, from the bodies of dead prisoners having been buried into the road bed .... there is no documentary evidence of that, and as far as I know, despite the road being unmaintained and totally eroded in many places, not a single traveller has reported actually seeing bones in any of the eroded sections.
I think a lot of it has become urban legend.
I was sitting in railway station with GF in Mariupol Ukraine and a guy sitting on the next bench had a question about the train. He shoved a little pocket translator in my face and wanted to know about the train to Kyiv.
To my surprise, I was reading the Russian part of the screen and didn't even notice the english part above it (he was from Wyoming). Natch, this surprised the WY guy also!
My Russian is poor beginner, but I can get along, somewhat fumbling and slowly. At least I became the guide for the GF on the Kyiv Metro and knew how to get around the city. The train tickets was a real challenge to me though.
Learn some Russian, it is good for you!
GREAT REPORT FROM WALTER (and whole crew) AGAIN!
I use Adobe Premiere for video editing. It usually handles different formats pretty well. You can resize it to fill the screen
You gotta love Google Translate! The only phrases I can speak to this day in Norwegian are "Read, read, read" and "I don't want to do the dishes!" I travelled to Norway in '96 and have a fondness for your country (and its women ). You guys did a fantastic job, and you have my utmost respect for finishing something that many of us will never get the opportunity to. Looking forward to the completed video...and more of your adventures!
Many thanks to all of you for taking us along with your trip to the far east! Love the way the story is told and the pictures that accompany it. Also, great video Steve! Really cool (and cold, from what I've seen). Glad you brought the GoPro's for quality video's and stills..
On to the next one! Spring has begun and summer's coming
Oh and did I say thank you?