Sibirsky Extreme 2012 - The Toughest Ride of Them All

Discussion in 'Epic Rides' started by Colebatch, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. motoreiter

    motoreiter Long timer

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    You are certainly correct, I should have distinguished between "drunk Russians" (ie, an average guy who happens to be drunk at the time) who can be very jolly and a lot of fun and "Russian drunks" (ie, alcoholics hanging about the gas station, store, cafe, etc. in the middle of the day in a drunken stupor) who are generally bad news.
  2. 70East

    70East Been here awhile

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    Thank You for the reply. I think I'm following your logic on the way your bags are for my setup. No rush for the photos, I think I got it. Enjoy the road, thanks again.
  3. mr.joke

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    Awesome RR !!:eek1
    I enjoyed every moment of your journey, and hope that will be more in the future ! :wink:

    congrats to all and everyone !! :freaky:clap
  4. FloorPoor

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    Thank you for this info. I had mistakenly thought that it would be more difficult for Americans to get visas in some eastern European countries because of the long cold war history, especially Russia, but I guess the U.K. was on the same side of it we were. Thank you again, Walter (and company) for ALL of your excellent RR's. I looking forward to the next one.:D
  5. khpossum

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    I agree with all of the above comments. If anything you encounter curiosity, since they do not see a lot of Americans. Especially a little of the beaten path. I can not remember a single occasion with locals that was negative because of my passport. I have been treated a lot more rudely in some of the European countries. Not because of my passport, just because some places get flooded by tourists and some locals may get grumpy.

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  6. GypsyWriter

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    Heh, very true, I kind of forgot about that part. :thumb

    Thanks for the replies, I really do want to head to that part of the world some day. Good to know I have certain "advantages" as an American. :freaky (I suppose having boobs and a ready smile could help me too :lol3)

    This RR ranks up there with the best, big thank yous to everyone who helped make it exceptional!!!
  7. poppawheelie

    poppawheelie Been here awhile

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    First let me say I have spent days reading your Sibirsky Extreme threads and enjoyed every minute. You probably know eastern Asia better than any English speaking man. Question. Without going into an explanation of vertigo, bla, bla, bla, what optional roads could be taken into Magadan to avoid the old wooden bridge crossings and railroad bridge crossings of the Old Summer Road and BAM?
  8. Colebatch

    Colebatch "Moto Porn"ographer

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    Well you could take the Trans Siberian Highway to Never / Skovorodino, which is all asphalted.

    Then you take M56 north from Never to Nizhny Bestyakh / Yakutsk, which is now about half asphalt / half maintained gravel road.

    Then you take the M56 onwards and eastwards from Yakutsk to Magadan via Ust Nera. ... which is a maintained gravel road.

    If you read the assorted ride reports to Magadan from RTWDoug and from Oisin, you will note thats the route they took (and which was more sensible on their larger, heavier bikes.) Search for them for more detail.
  9. Blader54

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    I assume Doug made it to Magadan but his ride report sorta petered out around Lake Baikal I think. I was following enthusiastically but then it just sort of stopped. Guess he moved on to other rides.
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  11. Colebatch

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  12. Blader54

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    Well shuck my corn! That's what I get for being inattentive and thinking Mag woulda been on the last few pages. My bad. Thanks Walter.
  13. poppawheelie

    poppawheelie Been here awhile

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    Hey, thanks! I briefly spoke with Doug in Daytona 2 years ago (?) when he was riding around on his Sporty before shipping it out. Read his report before, will pick up on it again. Thanks, man. :D
  14. GSlite

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  15. Blader54

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    @GSlite....yeah, at odds with this thread and just about every thread I've read about riding a bike in Russia. I think the key is in the way the data is gathered, and also the wording of the question they asked. "Foreigners" versus "foreign tourist" or "foreign motorcyclist" could result in different responses. I'd trust the experiences Walter, Doug, Doogle, Etronx & co (to be fair, these guys do appear to have had a scary moment on their way to meet up with Walter), and the King Croesus team before I'd trust that official "report". Just sayin'....
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    I would think it also has something to do with the way they are graphing it. When you split it up between more and less, someone always has to be one of the extremes.

    eg. say all populations are 100 people. in Russia 3 don't like foreigners, but in Canada that is only 1 (and the rest fall in between). Russia would "seem" to be the worst place to go, when in fact 97% of the the population still like foreigners.
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    hmmm, seems like NORTH Korea is far more welcoming than the SOUTH, maybe I should go there on holiday... :rofl:rofl:rofl

    oh, and I quote: "The WEF gathered the data from late 2011 through late 2012 by asking respondents, 'How welcome are foreign visitors in your country?'" I guess that explains why North Korea in in blue... :deal

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    what a load of :topes
  18. X Banana Boy

    X Banana Boy stuck in the office

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    North Korea is in grey so they aren't even on the graph, like a number of African countries. Guess they could get the survey info.
  19. live2ridetahoe

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    I notice that Iran is in red as well. My fiancee has been though there on a RTW expedition and has said how friendly people are. I also watched a YouTube video recently of a guy who bought a small bike and was taveling though Iran. He was there to debunk the "Iran is evil" myths that many governments and media companies have started...

    After watching his video, and listening to the stories from my fiancee, I am curious about exploring this country. They seem like very friendly people with an oppressive government. They would not be the first ones...

    JG
  20. rgiroux

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    at the risk of going all CS&M, people are good, governments and media not so much. I saw the vids by Ed March. He's a crackup, and crazy for riding on his Honda 90 :lol3 (but, aren't we all a little crazy?)