Sibirsky Extreme 2012 - The Toughest Ride of Them All

Discussion in 'Epic Rides' started by Colebatch, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. Colebatch

    Colebatch "Moto Porn"ographer

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    yeah I will join the chorus saying that that info on the chart is a load of rubbish. Anyone who is following this thread http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=885373&page=13
    and seeing the hospitality that Doug the American is receiving at the hands of the Russians, couldnt help to think that extremely unlikely he would have received hospitality like that anywhere in the west.
  2. Tiffany

    Tiffany Airhead Adventuress

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    ...that chart :eek1

    Venezuela?? Friendliest country in S America after Brazil.

    Iran?? people falling over themselves to make me welcome

    Mauritania?? as above

    Pakistan?? Ditto

    I could go on...but I won't.
  3. motoreiter

    motoreiter Long timer

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    Well, the methodology seems more than a little suspect: they are asking people "How welcome are foreign visitors in your country?". But what does that question even mean? It could be interepreted as two very different questions:
    --"How much would you personally welcome foreign visitors to your country?" or
    --"Generally, what is your assessment of your country's welcome to foreign tourists (including visa rules, tourist infrastructure, etc.)?"

    You'll get very different answers from these two questions, and I would think that Russia would fare rather poorly if answering the second question. In the abstract, I don't even think that many Russians would give a favorable response to the first question either. But when you appear in their local village they generally adopt a more friendly attitude.
  4. Colebatch

    Colebatch "Moto Porn"ographer

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    So how brutal on suspension is the Sibirsky Extreme Trail?

    Well I had brand new forks at the start of the trip ... with brand new crystal clear fork oil.

    The bike is now finally getting a full service, having not been ridden since the end of the trail ... We opened the forks ... guess what it looked like after the Trail ...

    [​IMG]
  5. livewire

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    Massive YUCK! :huh
    (why am I not surprised?)
  6. tmotten

    tmotten Lefthand ride Dutchy

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    That's insane. Always wondered about that stuff after hard use.
  7. StepOnIt

    StepOnIt Assitoner

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    Wow that looks better then what is in a KLR. :rofl
  8. max384

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    Wow. That is terrible looking. Did water get in? Those look far worse than my new-to-me KLR's 12 year old fork oil looked... Like not even in the same league. Though, you can't really judge fork oil until you've tasted it... As I found out after popping seals with compressed air WITHOUT covering them with a rag. Blech!

    BTW, when is the DVD due out?
  9. joenuclear

    joenuclear Planning.....

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  10. micko01

    micko01 another DR650 rider

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    Yep, this is complete crap. I just spent 3 weeks in Iran on holiday and they are easily the most friendly and hospitable people I have met anywhere. Incredibly friendly and welcoming. We were given all sorts of things, juice, bread, biscuits, fruit by complete strangers just because its a nice thing to do.

    I cant wait to go back.
  11. Colebatch

    Colebatch "Moto Porn"ographer

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    yeah ... after a lot of hard use, you do expect the fork oil to be grey or black - it gets a brutal churning on tough roads / fast off road ... but what really amazed us was how much SLUDGE had been created by the oil in the closed cartridge. Definitely suspect single chamber forks are more suitable for the long run, for adventure riding.

    DVD is a huge project. Minimum another 6 months. The amount of footage to wade thru was insane. At least that is done now. Its now a matter of stitching it all together into a coherent watchable format.
  12. sion

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    I'm thinking some water and/or other contaminants must have sneaked past the fork seals in order to create that sludge
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    DyrWolf Been here awhile

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    Maybe a Box Set for Christmas!
  14. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    The people, I won't disagree in principle. But in any country, you are going to encounter the government. Any American with the least bit of familiarity with this case is not making plans to visit. And gaining the greater bit of familiarity doesn't change that any. Basically, three hippie peaceniks from San Francisco take some time out from basically humanitarian jobs to go hiking in a part of Kurdistan that is generally regarded as safe, but happens to be on the border with Iran. Someone starts yelling, gesticulating, waving at them from a distance. They walk toward him to try to understand what communication is being attempted. As best they can figure out later, they were still in Iraq when the shouting started and probably crossed the line either before or after reaching his location. He's a soldier, they end up being arrested. Happy ending...

    Generally, any Mongol Rally team with an American has had to work out a route that avoids the place.
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    Just finished the extreme, read from 2 weeks ago. I came from the BAM so know Terry and Tony well. Plenty to catch up on but needless to say anything with Colebatch is next on my list.

    Walter , you are de man!

    Tony and Terry, in my dreams you 2 are me if you met in the Haddron collider.

    Prutser, Bas, i'm an airhead man R75/5 bought new in Munich 1973.

    TOTAL RESPECT bro !

    Beem(st)ter Linda , thanks for jerking us out of our male dominated fantasy and

    showing the guys that you just have to DO IT!

    Rod, you picked up Walter's baton and ran with it, well done mate, we all
    wanted you to make it home and hear about it! Superb.

    Geir , when I go travelling I want you, man mountain, on my team!

    Photos to die for, beautiful prose, that bear cub!!!!! And so much more!

    Erik, Just like Terry eh? "What's all the fuss about?" Let's just get it all done!
    Sterling effort.

    And the ONE in my humble has to to be Steve. How good was he? Novice? Unsuitable bike? Magnificent pics? Ditto Vid? Ditto ditto words not his own tongue? How good is that?

    Gordo the gratefull.
  17. max384

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    Make sure to keep us posted. I'll definitely be ordering it once it's released.
  18. seatec

    seatec Dutch Transplant

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    What a wonderful read.
  19. Bike Nomad

    Bike Nomad Been here awhile

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    Tsk, tsk Walter. An accomplished overlander of your experience should know not to abuse your equipment like that. Clearly you should have taken a page from some of your companions, and reduced the wear and tear on that suspension by much more extensive Bongo usage. I bet the contents of their forks are at least one shade less grey. :rofl
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  20. tee bee

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