Sibirsky Extreme 2012 - The Toughest Ride of Them All

Discussion in 'Epic Rides' started by Colebatch, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. chabon

    chabon Been here awhile

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    Great report. First thing I check every morning before I have coffee. Appreciate all the hard work you put into this.

    The Yamaha WR250R has a well documented fuel pump problem. When the pump gets hot it stops running. Wait for it to cool off and it will run for a few miles. Eventually it fails, but you get a few warnings.
  2. wilser

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    Walter and crew...really enjoying the great report!

    Rod,
    Interesting what a little research on the KTM 690 fuel pump revealed on the first google line as linked and quoted below, very fitting I believe:
    http://www.ktmtwins.com/ca-cycleworks-ktm-690-fuel-pump-upgrade


    CA Cycleworks KTM 690 Fuel Pump Upgrade

    "The stock unit is known to go out on you and if you've even been on a ride when something like that goes out you are SOL. This is a family shop and I can't say what I want to say but you get the idea. We are now carrying the fix to that problem and a permanent one at that. This durable Fuel Pump has been installed and tested on the KTM 690 and has shown to be reliable and bulletproof. If you haven't had the pump go out get one so you don't end up in the scenario above."

    Stellar report all! Nice job getting the bike sorted Rod.
  3. Butcho

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    :clap:clap:clap Good show Rod....You are an inspiration, never give up.
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  5. Colebatch

    Colebatch "Moto Porn"ographer

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    We rote up into the backwoods of the Altai. The first 50 km, to Ulagan, was sometimes asphalted. But in line with our recent fate when it came to weather, as soon as we got off the asphalt, rain started falling. We continued along on a gravel road through pretty countryside (and light rain) until we hit this stunning valley:

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    It looked amazing, but I really struggled to bring it out well in the photos. The fog and cloud in the air was dulling the scenery and the contrast. I just played around with it to do the best I could.

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    The river in the valley below is called the Chulyshman.

    We waited for half an hour in a tiny Altai octagonal shelter for the rain to ease up, then headed down to the valley floor.

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  6. Colebatch

    Colebatch "Moto Porn"ographer

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    The scenery was no less stunning on the valley floor:

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    Slowly the cloud began to lift - which gave us much more chance to appreciate the mind blowing scenery:

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    There is no doubt that the Altai is a stunning part of the world, and its a blessing that so many Adventure Riders have the chance to take the beautiful M52 highway on their way to or from Mongolia - I would reckon about 300 a year - an avge of 3-4 a day in the June - Sept riding season. But what was crystal clear to me now as we rode through this Chulyshman Valley, was that as stunning as the Altai may be from the asphalt, there is a much much more amazing world to be discovered by those who venture off that thin black ribbon.
  7. Colebatch

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    This isnt my photo ... I took it from the web ... but it gives you an idea what a photographers paradise it can be if the light is right:

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    Super.. Walter, I love to read your RR. keep up brother...:freaky
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    What did you see?
  11. ROD CURRIE

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    Rain...rain and more rain......You sure you didnae just go to Scotland ?? I told you it looked familiar! I f you just add inedible fried food and throw in a man reeling around clutching a spirits bottle and arguing with himself I'll know it's all been a con!
  12. ROD CURRIE

    ROD CURRIE Been here awhile

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    Walter, P & B...you're still killing me.

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    Oh theres a lot more to come ... :deal
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  16. ROD CURRIE

    ROD CURRIE Been here awhile

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    Blessed as I am now with hindsignt, the pump deterioration was gradual.
    Initially it seemed to be allied to ambient .ie air temperature, and we were thrown off the pump scent when one might just have fueled up with cold fuel but it would still die in hot air. It seemed to point to a progressive electrical issue maybe allied to the lack of airflow over parts previously exposed but now shrouded under the Safari tank . When we got to Kolyvan- Hassan's place and no warmer than say 65-70 degrees, that's 18-20C in new money and we still had the problem, we were more sure that it was pump related but even Viktor's many stabs at resolution only came down to the pump after a number of other suspicions were disproved.
    Somone mentioned one might run extended workshop tests to determine fuel supply. I hadn't a workshop in my panniers alas:wink:, and in an appalling failure of planning neither had any of the other guys, ... can't get the help y'know.
    The nearest KTM workshop of any competence is maybe 1500 miles away and might (?) even be in Moscow-4000 miles . We all just did our best with a very slippery symptom.

    Regardless I will now buy a spare pump and suggest any owners of earlier 690s do likewise.
    The 690 is a brilliant bike let down by some key items whose installation might be traced directly to to the Accounts Department rather than the Development team.
  17. Jurassic

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    I'm really pleased that you still feel that way about your 690 after all it put you through Rod. As we discussed I lost patience with mine under far less provocation than you (and got rid of it) but I still concede that when it was running right it was the most entertaining bike I've ever owned. You're almost persuading me to have another punt on one and Adventurise it as you've done. Yours is certainly the best looking adventure bike I've seen (and I already know how strong and smooth that engine is). Ho hum.....:evil :wink:
  18. sedd

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    hi, ROD
    690 have a few known main failure which already described by owners in Inet:

    1) fuel pump (which you alredy known ;] ). Its very often bug of 690 and strange that you don't know it before
    2) weak subframe\tank screw-bolts in stock
    3) damage of radiator by fun body in stock
    4) inbound valve rocker
    5) fault dashboard on E modification up to 2011 m.y. (on R - all OK)
    6) VERY hot exhaust in stock (as I see - you already have Akropovich)

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    7) sometimes faulty fastplug in line between fuel tank and injector
    8) small fuel filter in stock - which could cause to death fuel pump much earlier with bad fuel.

    I hope, this short list will help you to avoid problem's in future with your 690 :] :ricky

    PS
    excuse me for my bad english
  19. achesley

    achesley Old Motorcyclist

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    WOW! That valley , and , the lands about it are so awesome. Just amazed looking at it on my computer screen and have no idea of the thrill of seeing it in person. Kinda like Utah and places of interest here in the US. Pictures only give you a hint of the whole picture.
    Rod, :lol3 I'm shocked that you don't have a full compliment of spare parts, tools and test equipment. What were you thinking guy. :rofl If I worried about all the potential problems with my poor old KLR , I'd never get out of the garage with it much less roaming all over alone and on back roads. :freaky
    Thanks to all of ya'll for this report. Mind blowing for sure. :clap:clap:clap
  20. ROD CURRIE

    ROD CURRIE Been here awhile

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    SEDD.
    As you'll see later in the story my total lack of any Russian apart from a few key words (Piva being one:beer) got me into a couple of fixes, then scalp-crawlingly embarrassing but now very funny-I'll be relating the tale at the right time, so please don't apologise for your English. It's great.

    I knew about all the above and addressed them apart from the inbound ( Inlet?) valve rocker and my dash seems to be OK. Regarding the dodgy fuel pump I can only plead stupidity. I'd not had the bike for long and hadn't ridden it apart from a couple of hundred miles from London to Amsterdam where it was trucked from, and it ran faultlessly all the way.

    Jurassic, you'll see across the next weeks the bike lived up to my original expectations and more. I had a ball on it . The suspension needs an upgrade but after that's done I'd set of on any trip with confidence.
    I've ordered a spare fuel pump (can't have too many y'know) from Cycleparts-so thanks to whoever pointed that out to me, and as if I haven't been insulted enough, they're about a third of the price of a factory item in the UK :ddog
    I have a GS 1200 and frankly I never ride it now-the 690 pretty much does it all. It just took some getting there and in the process gave me experiences I'd never have had and made me friends I'd never have met. How can I feel bad about it?...more than that I still get a kick every time I look at it. :clap