Side Rack Confusion !@$$#!

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mountainkiller075, Oct 4, 2012.

  1. mountainkiller075

    mountainkiller075 Adventurer

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    I am looking to install a set of side panniers on my Tiger 800XC. I have decided on using Pelicans but don't know which type of side rack to use. I have narrowed the list down to:

    1) Hepco Becker Sideracks
    2) SW-Motech Sideracks
    3) GIVI Sideracks

    Does anyone have any information (pros or cons) on any of these sideracks? Any information is much appreciated I am looking to order these before the end of the week but can't decide on the sideracks....
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  2. Voluhzia

    Voluhzia iExplorer

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    I only now that SW-Motech racks are quick disconnect and leave little tabs hard to see when the rack is off...
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  4. Smopho

    Smopho Been here awhile

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    Hepco and Beckers use 1/4 turn twist screws, 3 on each side. When they' re off, all you have is a thin black plate left on the side and a small tab by the footpeg. What I don't like about them is the left bracket sits the pannier 5-6" off the bike frame. But that does leave room for a tool tube or two I guess.
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  5. motosickle2000

    motosickle2000 Been here awhile

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    The Givi racks are quick release also. They come with a special keyed tool to remove the racks. They are high quality and they come with a nice bag to store them in when they are off of the bike.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17076503&postcount=9008
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  6. Clockwatcher

    Clockwatcher Been here awhile

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    Hey MK, Your post doesnt say where you are. but maybe I can help. I have been making some racks for my bikes.
    If you would like a peek , PM me...........:ear
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  7. mountainkiller075

    mountainkiller075 Adventurer

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    Thanks for the help everyone! I ended up getting impatient and impulsive and buying the SW-Motech racks to pair with my bike...

    They seem like they will be able to hold up - I don't plan on ever taking them off ever, so I bought a hard bolt kit to replace the quick releases. Once I get them on I will post up some photos.
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  8. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    Anybody know why everybody does this? It's such a dumb thing to do, there must be a reason:lol3

    Subscribed since I'm looking to do the same thing. Seems all the racks in question would work fine. Which is cheapest:wink: I'll likely go with Caribou bags since the top box I have is so good. I think you can use any of the racks with their kit?
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  9. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    Yes, I emailed Happy Trails about this and their reply was, 'That's what 95% of our customers want." I guess for most people they can't deal with one side sticking out further. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

    I was also upset that they placed their right side lower mount precisely where the muffler headpipe runs and a Leo was just enough larger in diameter that it would not fit. DOH!!!

    They are much heavier duty that the other brands here, and I've used them before so I went with them again. IMHO they will survive a laydown better than the others.

    Touratech are non-symetrical and so are Wolfman. The latter now has a mounting system for hardcases giving you the option of running their soft bags or hard cases. I wished I would have gone that route. Still may. :wink:
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  10. windmills

    windmills Gnearly Adventurer

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    Hey Motosickle,
    hope you don't mind me butting in here...
    Those Givi racks look about the best I've found so far (I also don't like the rack sitting way out on the left side of the bike when it doesn't really need to). Thing is, I wanted to use the racks as a base for soft bags, and that mounting knob top centre of the rack looks like it might interfere a bit with mounting soft bags. Is that knob a permanent metal fixture? Looks a bit like a rubber plug in your image, if so could it easily be removed to better fit soft bags?

    Thanks for any help you can give!
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  11. InTheLoo

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    The Wolfman rack will likely work well with Pelican cases. I didn't care to have a quick release rack and just finished fitting the Wolfman racks, Wolfman hard bag kit (of which Wolfman makes a Pelican 1430 specific kit) and Muffintop MT1-OC aluminum panniers to my 800XC for about $800 total.
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  12. elan

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    I'm pretty happy with my givi racks - and the price I found on them made it a no brainer. They're quick release if I need to remove them, but I never do. I can't imagine any rack getting any closer on the exhaust side than the givi. It's actually close enough that I can sometimes get a little resonance between the exhaust heat shield and the rack on downshifts.
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  13. ag_streak

    ag_streak Tiene Ruta Cuarenta?

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    I hard-bolted Seahorse cases (like Pelicans but lighter duty) to my SW-Motech racks and kept the quick-release to be able to remove them. Super-strong and stable.

    Even if you think you want to keep them on most of the time, it's handy to be able to remove them for cleaning and chain/tire maintenance.

    I came up with a fool-proof method of getting both cases aligned exactly the same before drilling. If anyone wants me to describe it, I'll try...
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    I tested my Givi rack this weekend with a left side layover. I did not survive a zero speed impact. Bent it in pretty good but I was still able to use the rack with a little less passenger foot room. Looking for something more heavy duty now that I can use with the Trekker cases.
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  15. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    Happy Trails or Wolfman. Strongest racks in the biz.
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  16. twistedthrottle

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    To "add" to the list we; Twisted Throttle, have an attachment system that works with both SW-MOTECH and Givi side carriers and allows you to remove the cases from the carrier with a key.

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    Pelican Quick Release System

    If you buy the hardware for the side carrier kit you get:
    • (2x) Quick release case adapters
    • (1x) Siderack mounting hardware (same kit for Givi and SW-MOTECH sideracks)
    • (2x) Keyed alike locks (locks the cases to your sideracks)

    You can also buy the same kit with cases here: http://www.twistedthrottle.com/pelican-case-motorcycle-luggage-system-sidecase-kit-standard

    To go a step further you can go with the deluxe version of the kit with cases. This will include everything mentioned and also include a lock for the case lids and lid stays that only allow the cases to open 90°. This helps you to avoid having a "yard sale" every time you open the case when it is on the bike.

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    I hope this helps.

    Kevin
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  17. twistedthrottle

    twistedthrottle Been here awhile

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    Stronger is not always better. It can allow force from the impact or fall to transfer to the subframe of the motorcycle and cause damage. That is why SW-MOTECH side carriers and crashbars are constructed of mild steel. We would prefer the aftermarket items to fail rather than the frame opr subframe of the motorcycle.

    Kevin
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  18. Just GO!

    Just GO! Countersteer it.

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    I've used SW Motech for 7 years on my Strom and have no complaints. I opted for the quick detach because I don't want the racks and bags 100% of the time. The racks come off in seconds and the attachment points practically disappear.


    Here's the bike with all it's baggage................


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    and here's a shot without all the crap.............


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    I can attest to the fact that they're mild steel as I recently dropped it hard and the racks did bend inward. I was able to reform them without heat and they now look like brand new used ones again. :lol3
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  19. LexLeroy

    LexLeroy Chief Mansplainer

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    +1 :thumb I did the same thing w/ Pelican 1550's on my VStrom. Simple & robust, easily removed when required. I even devised an inner-city tech approach to security.... :D

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  20. ag_streak

    ag_streak Tiene Ruta Cuarenta?

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    Awesome! The beauty of that is the visibility. A thief would take one look and say, "Oh screw that shit!" :deal

    You removed the handles, huh? How come?

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