, I like that. Pretty much on the money , but thankfully there are those who push beyond that mindset. These are the people I would gladly share a fireside ale with. I still recall the 'good old days' here when a question's first response would generally be " fuck off and search ". Groucho Marx in a telegram to the Friar's Club of Beverly Hills , "Please accept my resignation. I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member". Have fun Dave. .