Sidecars- Lets see em.

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by England-Kev, Nov 14, 2007.

  1. KCDakar

    KCDakar What are we waiting for?

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    Mr.Mellow's WildRide, I put the two posts together (with a bit of editing on my part) so you you can find what you are looking for. The answers you seek, are in the linky...
    Enjoy. :thumb

  2. Agent Wayward

    Agent Wayward Been here awhile

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    This should help!

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  3. Mr.Mellow's WildRide

    Mr.Mellow's WildRide Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the shots. The one from the rear really shows how immense it is. Beautiful work...........!!!
  4. Bruincounselor

    Bruincounselor North Plains Drifter

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    How about a shot of the proud owner using it?
  5. halflive

    halflive Been here awhile

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    Because it takes to long before someone else spots it.

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  6. NitroMax

    NitroMax Been here awhile

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    I've got a hunch I've seen that one before :D
  7. KneeDrachen

    KneeDrachen Long timer

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    Is the tug a UJM that never made it to the US? Good looking rig, I like the KR paint scheme. I'd love to have a RZ350 in that paint scheme...
  8. Agent Wayward

    Agent Wayward Been here awhile

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    Soon.

    The owner is collecting it from the Ace Cafe, London, on the 31st March during the Sidecar Saturday event.

    All at Motopodd are looking forward to this great day!

    But not as much as the owner is! :D
  9. Agent Wayward

    Agent Wayward Been here awhile

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    Looks like an XJ900?
  10. NitroMax

    NitroMax Been here awhile

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    You do know your bikes :D

    It's built by one of he guys at www.motor-forum.nl , nicknamed "Kwastert", which loosely translates ( in slang/dialect ) to "Painter" :D

    Link to the topic ( in Cloggie of course, but you can see the pics )
  11. halflive

    halflive Been here awhile

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    No, it is an XJ900 (FJ900) which previously has been hauling a EML 2001 sidecar. The owner bought a new EZS sidecar and let them install it. Being a painter by profession he designed and painted the combination himself. What else could he choose but the KR design for a Yamaha?
  12. sandsman

    sandsman Back in the saddle again..............

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    Well I started mounting the Formula II to my Intruder. I need a nice concrete floor, but my carport will have to do. I have the lower mounts done and will be doing the upper mounts tomorrow. Then hopefull the wireing Monday or so. Looks like the track is going to be about 54", I don't know if this is about what others are. I also have the sidecar's axle set forward of the bike's rear axle by 12 inches. This cruiser sits so low. And the paint will come later after it all gets sorted out.


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  13. nick949eldo

    nick949eldo Long timer

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  14. NortwestRider

    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    I have done ALL of my fitting/mounting in my carport on very UNEVEN gravel,I feel your pain brother !!.
    12" of lead should be fine,the intruder is a fairly long bike !!.The two match up well and with paint it should look AWSOME !!!!
  15. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    Here is a combo we recently did for Lew Stretch. All original paint with matching patina :-)
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  16. gilberth

    gilberth Adventurer

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    Claude,
    Nice set of mounts you did on the Guzzi/Hollandia.
    I came off the end of the eng bolts for the lowers on mine
    Howard
    PS Is there a way to post photos?
  17. Mr.Mellow's WildRide

    Mr.Mellow's WildRide Been here awhile

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    So, then you admit that you are not the ONLY thing which has accumulated a patina of age in your shop.......???

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  18. sandsman

    sandsman Back in the saddle again..............

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    Well I got it together today....gonna have to play with the setup. Have some front end shake. I have a steering stabilizer to install and gonna play with the toe in/out setting. Right now I am running 3/4" toe in and 12" of axle lead. The short ride was surely different than I have ever had on a bike. Still have the wiring to do , since it is gonna rain for the next 3 or 4 days, I guess that will be my project.

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  19. fotosaccion

    fotosaccion Looking for New Adventure

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    So here it finally it's!! I received the sidecar from Hannigan the beginning of January. First off.... I can't say enough about Claude! He is AWESOME!! He was patient with all of my questions and put up with my frustrations on delivery beautifully! He helped over the phone with the install. It was pretty easy, I just had a few stumbling blocks. I'm planning a trip to visit him in Pennsylvania soon!

    I guess let me start with what I have and what I did before I put on the sidecar. I will explain what works and what didn't for me.
    2002 Vstrom DL1000
    I am 200 pounds 5'9"
    I sent my rear suspension to Jay at Sasquach suspensions to have him rebuilt and put in a heavier spring. I will find out what spring rate.
    I upgraded my front suspension to Racetech 1.1kg springs and Racetech oil that I purchased from Jay.
    I switched to a 530 chain and increased the rear sprocket to 45 and reduced the front to 16 tooth.
    205/50 R17 rear car tire
    Converted as many signals (turn and brake) to led to conserve power. (Vstrom power output sucks!!)
    Givi 55L top case with Admore lighting kit
    Signal Dynamics backoff, power meter and headlight flash modules
    Hippo hands!! Awesome!
    Givi 41L side cases with Admore lighting kits. I currently only use the right bag without lights. I also do not have the rear right blinker on the bike hooked up. Using the left box makes the setup too wide.
    I am currently sill using the motorcycle battery. No external car battery yet. Power is good still.
    Warm n Safe grip heaters



    Hannigan Dual Sport model
    Options I ordered:
    Sway bar
    Carpet
    Cigarette lighter adapter
    Cup holder
    Soft top
    Half size windshield
    Steering damper
    Color match
    Electric camber

    Claude was kind enough to upgrade the sub frame for me. The sub frame that Hannigan provides with their sidecars seemed to be a lot less than what I would have preferred. Again.... Claude is Amazing!! His sub frame is Incredible!

    I will provide more pictures as to the crate and some install pictures later.

    Now I want to speak of the options that after 2 months of driving, did and did not work for me. First off, I never needed a steering damper. Hannigan forgot to send it and i am very thankful for that.
    Next, i took off the anti sway bar. It seemed to make my steering a lot more difficult in ordinary driving and made the car even more difficult when just going over speed bumps. I'm happier with it off all of the time. Granted, I do not have any steering modifications whatsoever on my Vstrom. No leading links or Steerite as of yet.
    The other thing that I removed from my Vstrom were the Rox Risers that I had installed before. Having the handlebars attached at two points made the steering feel odd. My steering is a lot more solid now without the Rox risers.
    Steering a Vstrom without a steering modification is doable. It is complicated though with the fact that the hydraulic clutch on the DL1000 is very stiff and is actuated so far from the grip. Cutting down the pin in the handle and shortening the clutch throw activation is a must. Down shifting a turning a side car outfit is hard when the clutch is activated with your fingers extended. I do recommend this.
    I HIGHLY recommend the shorter windshield. It is great in everyday driving and in high winds. I do like the soft top. When it was cold here is Dallas, ever so briefly, it was nice having a passenger in the sidecar protected from cold, wind and rain.
    I Love the electric camber adjust. I Highly recommend it. I will be getting a different switch for it that will mount on the handlebar soon so it is more accessible. I like that I can adjust the car based on road conditions or even cross winds which helps with the car tracking better. I have the Vstrom leaning out and by adjusting the camber, I can increase this. I originally set the Vstrom straight up and down with the camber at its mid travel and later decided to make the bike be leaning out slightly even and the lowest travel of the camber adjust and increase from there. It is very comfortable for me that way.
    I will be adding a front bumper to the sidecar. It has existing locations for round tubing. I want to add some LED floodlights.

    My setup: The toe-in I set it all up to originally is .5". I will be double checking this soon.
    My setup tracks straight at speed.
    The Vstrom in leaning out from the rig. I don't have a specific amount. I'll get that.

    If anyone is near and would like to meet up and see my setup, let me know. If you have suggestions, I'm all ears! I am still considering a steering modification. The permanent grin on my face due to the sidecar is AWESOME!! I'm not sure I will ever take the sidecar off at this point.




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  20. Ryushin Kan

    Ryushin Kan kancho

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    Great looking outfit! More photosssssssss:clap



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