Sidi X-Treme Off road boots, vs Crossfire?

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  1. Blakduk

    Blakduk Just trying to get by.

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    I'm curious if anyone has had the X-Treme after the Crossfire TA. They are marketed as a little bit more 'off-road' than 'MX', if you look carefully there is very, very little difference. The only change I can see is that on the outside near your little toe, the Crossfires have an extra plastic protection pad, and similar on the inside, side of the boot.

    I would suspect that they are are bit more hard-core than most ADV style bike boots. The lack of that above-mentioned protection pad 'might' mean they have a little more 'give' around the outside of the foot. Perhaps this difference is somewhere else, but I can't see it.
    Most cheaper boots, including MX boots don't have half the protection. Have a careful look below.

    Also curious about sticking giant knee guards in. (My old Sidi Crossfire 2 TA, had plenty of room, my current (wornout) cheapie boots - well you have to leave the top clips undone and only use the velcro bit.)
    Edit: and I found this
    First the X-Treme:

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    And the Crossfire 2.
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  2. Barakaiki

    Barakaiki Been here awhile

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    I looked hard into both and settled on the CrossFire 2 TA's... Just a little more robust, albeit with a larger investment. But the prices are coming down significantly.


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  3. Grreatdog

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    I ordered a pair of Charger boots and would have loved them if they hadn't been ridiculously narrow. I normally have a narrow "Sidi" foot but could barely even get my foot inside the boot. I got a pair of Adventures instead. They kind of suck offroad but work well for easy dual sport.

    If these really are a direct replacement for the Charger and not sized like they were before, then they are probably very nice boots for the money. I will take another look at them. The Chargers were a lot of boot for the money just incredibly poorly sized for normal American male feet.
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  4. Fastman

    Fastman Been here awhile

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    I just bought a pair of Crossfire 2 SRS after badly hurting my foot on a fall during a rocky creek crossing. I wear a 42 in the SIDI Tour Gore-Tex Boots, but had to go up a size (43) for a good fit in these. These things are like tanks. I was finally able to get out a bit yesterday (foot is still tender) and had to get used to the reduced feel with the shift and brake levers.
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  5. YellowjacketD37

    YellowjacketD37 Been here awhile

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    You can purchase SIDI boots here at either $100 off for the more expensive models or $50 off for the less expensive models. I purchased a Goldentyre from that club that they have also on special and received it in two days. You'll need to send a private message to Jeff, so you'll have to register on the District 37 website. Sale ends March 31st!

    http://www.district37ama.org/forums/showthread.php?69311-SIDI-BOOT-Club-Promotion

    At these prices, perhaps you can step up to the Crossfire 2 SRS boots. I've had mine at least 12 years and have purchased the replaceable soles three times. They still feel great and are in good working condition. I just wish I hadn't purchased the white color. Hard to keep them looking nice.
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  6. trc.rhubarb

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    The Crossfire 3 are what you really want to compare, but I own 2's and don't know the 3's
    The CF2 is a hard shell boot with little give in any area. This looks much softer in pictures, which could be nice for ADV.
    If I am going to sacrifice protection for walking, I'd rather make sure I can walk well and will use my Forma boots, or go for a traditional, lower rise Sidi Adventure series.
    Seems like with these, you get all the negative of a full on MX boot but less protection. They do look like they might fit in the leg of my jeans though... which is a plus
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  7. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    I have chargers and love them for my narrow feet.
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  8. Grreatdog

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    For anybody considering these, Chaparral has the original Crossfire for $309. That is about what I see the old Chargers sold for and less than I could find the X-Treme.

    There is little difference between the Original Crossfire and the 2. So that is a good price for a $500 boot. I just ordered a pair. Now let's see if they are crusty old stock or decent.
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  9. speedtrials

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    I too am interested in the sidi x-3 as an alternative to the crossfires. Mostly because the x-3 are about 1/2 the weight of the crossfires so they seem like they'd be more comfortable to walk in. Does halving the weight reduce the protection too much?
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  10. Grreatdog

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    From what I saw with both on my feet, the answer is yes there is a big difference in protection. The question is how much protection do you want? To me, Crossfires are probably overkill most of the time. I wear the Adventures most.

    The big difference is that Crossfires wrap most of your lower leg and foot in a fairly stiff plastic shell with leather or Lorica or whatever that stuff is under that plastic shell. The X-3 does without most of that full wrap plastic shell.

    X-3 is more of a traditional leather MX boot with a mechanical ankle joint. The X-3 is still a hell of a lot of protection for the money. They just lack the plastic armor of Crossfires. I can't tell you if that is too much loss of protection.
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  11. aldend123

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    Bit of a nitpick, but that is the first generation Crossfire 1 TA, not the 2. The 2 has some slight difference sin the plastics, smaller buckles, and a few other minor changes. The big difference is the hinge on the 2's is sealed behind a panel.

    To the original question, I like my Crossfires but I wouldn't want to wear them on a longer distance ride. The toebox is very rigid (nearly solid), and while the ankle kinda flexes, the mid foot does not. This makes shifting and braking a little awkward. On a dirtbike, I don't mind and value the protection. But it's a mix of annoying and overkill protection for road riding.
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  12. Grreatdog

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    The original version Crossfire TA boots that I just bought from Chaparral have the exact same covered hinge as the 2. In fact, I can't see any difference in the Crossfire 2 TA and the boots I just bought.

    I am sure there is some difference. But it must be pretty minor because they look identical when I compare them to pictures of 2's. The Crossfire 3 does have a different type of hinge.
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  13. alongat

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    The crossfire TA2 is slightly wider in the toe box co pared to the original TA p,is the hinge bolt mechanism is improved...these are very minor details. As for comparing them to the X-Treme, the Crossfire TA has a dual hinge design vs single ankle hinge - this suggests to me that if the X-treme is reputed to be later and more "walkable" with the single hinge than they must be less armoured / rigid...
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  14. tkach

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    Tried these on today, need a replacement from my sidi adventure boots, after a year of hard use they've started leaking badly + less protection has resulted in leg injuries. Was thinking of getting these instead, crossfires seem better but at the price difference and adv riding i'm not sure if CF aren't too much.
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  15. alongat

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    Try on a pair of Forma terrain TX (not eh other terrain models like the HPS). Hinged ankle, amazing protection, support and comfort for about half the price of the crossfire TA2. I had them prior to my crossfire ta2 and really really liked them. I'm just a Sidi fanboy :)
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  16. tkach

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    I'm trying to find something universal, daily commuting + a boot that could do a trip to mongolia and not have a membrane that would take days to dry after water crossings.)
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  17. alongat

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    The crossfire TA are amazing boots but a bit of a pain for commuting, etc - they're not light. The terrain tx are lighter weight and still have a double hinged ankle for ease of walking without compromising protection against hyperextension and other nasty things that can happen to your ankle. As for drying after water, the Sidi boots (apart from the adventure and rain models) are no more water resistant than anything else on the market and Forma also sells waterproof booty inserts if that's a concern. Personally, I never worry about my feet getting wet and I use a boot dryer that I bought from Costco a few years ago.
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  18. tkach

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    Getting wet isn't that much of a concern, it's the time it takes to dry.) Last time i was on a month long trip, it took 3 days for the boots to dry because water went over the top on a water crossing and i was in a remote area with no power outlet. Was under the impression that non-membrane boots dry faster then those with gortex or similar. There's a store here in Moscow that seems to have the Terrain tx, will try them on today/tomorrow. It's not that i'm a 'sidi only' guy, but had a few bumps where if not for the sidi adventure boots it'd be pretty bad in end.
    ps i'm planning a serious trip to mongolia etc in a few months and want the boots to fully break in now, while i daily commute so that there wouldn't be any 'issues' on the trip.
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