Snow/winter riding information

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Dysco, Sep 21, 2004.

  1. Don Coyote

    Don Coyote Long timer

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    Do you have those gloves? Are they true 3 finger gloves without a 5 finger liner? I've been searching for such a glove for years but the British ones i've found have all incorporated the 5 finger liner (like getting a vasectomy and then using a condom) and been priced absurdly, while friends that have ventured into Deutschland have succumbed to local culture somehow before sending back the Hein Gericke Pathos i've requested. ( I see Flyncycle is out of L and XL. ARGHHHHHH!)

    Ths US seems to continue to suffer from quantity-over-quality-itis as they offer nothing in 3 fingers for motorcycles. I had a nice pair of Pearl Izumi lobster gloves that worked wonders for my winter bicycling for over a decade until they fell apart, and now all half-dozen similar style gloves i've looked at for replacement (including the new Pearl Izumi) have the condom/vasectomy design feature of an inner glove liner. Proof that technological progress will produce inferior designs to meet marketing goals...

    Along with luke-gr, i'm starting to wonder about simple mittens that might have some crash-worthy considerations...
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    I honestly can't say what the liner is like, just that I've REALLY been looking at them myself.
    As long as there's no insulation in that finger seperator within the glove, I'm thinking it would still be beneficial.

    I'm currently using Olympia 2in1's 5 finger gloves.
  3. Ceri JC

    Ceri JC UK GSer

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    Yesterday night was down to 1 degree celsius. Very easy, no need for the heated kit. That was the coldest I've ridden in this winter so far. Normally by now, it would have been lower at some point. Only once did I intentionally avoid riding in really bad weather (1000 mile round trip in snow and ice) by taking the car. Must be a relatively mild winter here in the UK.
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    Ceri JC UK GSer

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    Love that video, don't know why, it's just so simple.
  5. freetors

    freetors Been here awhile

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    So what is it actually like riding on fresh, unplowed snow with no ice underneath? I've ridden my mountain bike a couple times but the lack of power was more apparent than anything else. My WR250R has a d606 on the back with the stock tw22 on the front. There are some gravel backroads around here that I think would be beautiful with snow.
  6. nulluser

    nulluser Been here awhile

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    It feels kind of like sand. The front end washes out all over the place, you need tons of power to get anywhere, and you lose traction if your speed drops down.
  7. randyo

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    depends on the tires a a good deep lugged knobby I find goes ok until snow gets about 6" deep

    the more down low torque you have, the better, it helps getting moving without spinning you get with horsepower


    riding on the darkside will give you a 1000% improvement in your abilities
  8. RJP

    RJP Time-Deficient Adventurer

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    maybe...

    Item "TCSW" here: http://gerbing.com/Products/tempControls.php and use 2 SAE-to-Gerbing convesions connections.
  9. Northern Rob

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    Yes, agreed those Gerbings controllers are good and recommended. If you're using SAE and on the cheap, you can try this as plan B... Go to a hardware store and buy a toggle on/off lamp switch - the kind that you wire into the lamp cord. Just wire it into your vest cord. It's super cheap. Mine lasted quite a few years before it gave up.

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  10. Northern Rob

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    If you don't like heated gloves, go to a sports store or hunting store and get those chemical disposable hand warmers. They last about 8 hours, they're cheap and work well for hands and feet. Also good for keeping your camera and batteries warm in your tank bag.

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    If that's not enough, then just tweak your existing gear: (heated grips, Hippo hands) with gerbing electric glove liners inside army surplus winter arctic mitts. That will let you ride in any temperature you'd ever think of wanting to do. Might need to duct tape the seam between the mitts and your jacket to avoid cold air leaks, but you'd be totally set for anything not completely insane.:evil
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    I am about to go out in -10c .i just bought W&S heated gear- hopefully it will do the trick
  12. Uncle Pollo

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    That is cold .
  13. randyo

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    biggest problem I've found with disposable warmers is bulk

    with choppers mitts, they work great, no where to fit them in a pair of tight fitting gloves or boots

    I keep a few on hand as an emergency measure if my heated gear should fail
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    I wandered off after I didnt get a quick reply, sorry. :)

    I made it throught the winter fine. Ive put just over 16K on my KLR over the past year. Studded tires were barely needed with this warm winter but Im sold on them. Awesome traction. I was concerned about traction on dry pavement but see it is no big issue (for me on my bike anyway). I have seperate rims and will swap them out next year as the knobbies with studs just dont last long.

    Never did put a switch on my vest but did end up buying a cheap lamp type switch on Ebay. I rarely used the vest anyway and when I do, it's cold enough to leave it on. I bought a Firstgear Thermo suit which worked quite well for me. Ive certainly done my share of layering. I work on Grandfather Mountains part time as security and left one morning at 4.8F for the 25 mile trip home. Not too big of a deal except for my hands. Ouch!

    My KLR has aluminum bars (installed by previous owner). I did wrap left bar with a couple wraps of duct tape before installing Kimpes heated stick-ons. Ive come to realize that aluminum is much more of heat sink than steel. Noticed Hot Grips site doesnt even recommend putting their products on aluminum bars. Wondering if it would be worthwhile to change out the bars back to a steel one? Any thoughts on that (Grasping at straws?)? Wondering if the Oxford grips would be better than what I have? Really dont want to throw money at this as I'd say that heated gloves or liners would solve the problem but really hate to deal with the wires every day as this is my daily driver. I was thinking about the Firstgear liners from my local dealer.

    Here's to warmer weather.......:freaky
  15. Dysco

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    Bump for the warmest winter weather I've seen! :lol3
  16. Canadian FJR

    Canadian FJR Been here awhile

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    Just ordered 200 4706 studs and a new set of Dunlop 606s...............bring on the crappy weather.







    Canadian FJR
  17. kbennett2000

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    Dysco - Apologies if you already covered this, but I've got a question for you. In your original post you said you preferred heavier dual sports to lighter ones for use in the snow. Since then it looks like you've also tried your hand with lighter, smaller displacement bikes too. Having tried both, what are your thoughts on heavy vs. light bikes in the winter?
  18. QuiCkSiLv3R

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    Mid december bump

    going to use all my "mental energy" (as the orientals call it ki) to keep it from snowing.

    It's going well in the northeast poconos here. I live in the mountains. No snow, although they are calling for a winter event this weekend.. I'm sure alot of you guys in different parts of the country will get alot.

    bike has been down for a month, it shall be operational again tomorrow. Can't wait to ride.
  19. Don Coyote

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    Racing to get some fresh rubber on the rear before the blizzard hits Thursday...
  20. Dysco

    Dysco Puppy wrangler

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    Lower would be better for the WR250R, but it's more fun to get squirrely with. I think a lot of it depends on the tire profile- some tires are pointy and sketchy, others are a little flatter and comfy. I did not love the Trakmasters I put on the WRr, but the two rear Trakmaster's worked fine on the F650gs. I'd be interested in trying it with a T43 on the WRr. That might be worth a try down the road.