So we've all heard/seen the 650 xchallenge...let's see your XCOUNTRY!

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Olas, Dec 3, 2007.

  1. Dominus

    Dominus WSMC#931

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    Two words:
    Freaking Awesome!

    The initial noticable difference is that I can now touch the ground much easier due to the lowering of the front by a couple of inches...19 inch wheel in front to a 17 inch wheel in front. The bike handles fantastically and I highly recommend the swap if you have the means. I picked up the wheels off of an X-challenge owner, so the hubs for the X-challenge are exactly the same as the X-country. The Excel wheels were laced up by Woody's and so far they're a blast to ride on.
  2. Bulldogs2k

    Bulldogs2k Been here awhile

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    Can you explain why? I will be cross shopping the two but the 650 twin does not have wire wheels, which, is a problem for me since I will be using the bike off road a bit.

    A
  3. johno

    johno Long timer

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    I like my 2001 F650GS, so the Xcountry was similar to that.
    Admittadly, I didnt go offroad with it, just up a winding mountain road:D :D :D What a ball that was.

    The new twin just didnt light my fire. Seat is terrible, power Ok, steered too quick for my liking, dropping into corners was a bit unnerving.
    Tyre pressures may have been out, it was a BMW fleet demo:eek1

    It will be a personal choice, I just wouldnt pay to upgrade to the twin, but would to the Xcountry.
    You ride both. Will be interested in your opinion.
  4. P3R

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    Yes the cast wheels and probably even more the 39 kg = 85.980 pounds weight difference says that if you want to take it off road, the X is a much better choice.

    If you prefer touring on paved roads the twin engine, the larger fuel tank, the better luggage and passenger possibilities on F 650 GS are superior.

    I didn't find the F 650 GS steering or seat as bad as johno did. The seat is not as comfortable as you'd come to expect from BMW, but neither is the Xcountry seat.

    I think they are both great bikes when used for the riding they are designed for. When you've decided on what kind of riding is most important to you, the choice will be simple I think.
  5. uxc

    uxc adventure nerd

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    here's a video

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  6. Bulldogs2k

    Bulldogs2k Been here awhile

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    Nice vid, living up to the scrambler name. My girlfriend will most likely buy this bike when she gets her license. She will be learning how to ride on my CRF 230l for the time being...so, it looks like I'll be doing the 'hard' work of breaking the bike in. :clap
  7. johno

    johno Long timer

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    P3R, I must admit I didnt do a lot of miles on the 650, but if I dont like it in the 1st few miles, I wont like it in the long run.
    I have had 6 BMWs, and none of them have had seats that I could find comfortable. Must be my butt:lol3

    All the Beemers I have had I liked with the 1st ride, not after many.
    Thats just me:D
  8. P3R

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    I wasn't trying to change your opinion, just thought that maybe bulldog2k wanted another riders impression as well.
    I find the standard Xchallenge seat terrible and the low seat marginally better but some people claim they're both great. Since we are all differently made I think it's good for a buyer to hear several opinions.
    All the bikes I've had I liked from the start as well but I do sometimes recommend a bike I dislike if I think it will fit another persons riding. Not that this was the case this time, I like both these bikes, but I think they suit different usage.
    50/50 on/off road=G 650 Xcountry
    90/10 on/off road=F 650 GS twin
  9. andrewgore

    andrewgore Gôremā

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    Went to my local BMW dealer today to eye up any\all of the G650x bikes. They only had a moto, and after sitting on it for awhile, I had a feeling that I probably would want to sit on that seat all day, and couldn't completely flat foot (even being 6 foot with 34" inseam). I've teetered back and forth on which bike to go with, and I'm thinking the xCountry is the one for me. Anyone have any additional info on the 09 compared to the earlier models? I know seat height, but did they relocate rear shock mounting points, or did they just loosen up the pre-load on the shock? Dealer said it'd be 8400$ with ABS for the 09 which I figured was rather reasonable. Thoughts, ideas? I'm ready to ride!

    Andrew
  10. P3R

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    I don't see any reason at all for BMW to have measured the '07 seat height at anything but zero preload so that I think can be ruled out.

    BMW claim the '09 has a rear suspension travel of 165 mm compared to the '07 having 210 mm (220 vs 240 mm front) and my guess would be another shock rather than moving the mounting points. I think that would be both easier and more cost effective.
  11. Bulldogs2k

    Bulldogs2k Been here awhile

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    I'm not really feeling the yellow 09s.... But then again, this is going to be my GFs bike. :freaky
  12. Tim-Rodriguez

    Tim-Rodriguez Been here awhile

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    Im not having much luck with mine...the indicator light on the dash has stop working when going right i tried taking it appart 3 times managed to sort it twice but I cant get it to work again its a faulty plug.

    Just hope my BMW dealer does it on warrantee and get it sorted before i go Adventure riding.

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  13. andrewgore

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    Got approved yesterday for financing and insurance is definitely cheap enough. I think I'll be heading to the dealer today. :freaky
  14. Claudellvonhop

    Claudellvonhop Adventurer

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    Ride West (BMW dealer in Seattle) is selling a 2008 xCountry with the following for $8999. Feedback is appreciated...

    1700 miles
    ABS
    Hepco Bags
    Hand Guards
    C Bailey Windscreen
    Tank Bag

    Nice looking bike and I prefer the black to the new Yellow '09. Is this a good deal?
  15. mcftw

    mcftw hxc n33b

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    OTD right?
  16. P3R

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    AFAIK there are no '08 Xcountry. If it's black I think it's a '07 (manufactured late 2006 or in 2007) but maybe it was sold in '08.

    Perhaps in the US it's always the first registration that counts? In my country (Sweden) most customers are (much to) sensitive about what model year the bike belongs to and that affect reselling value.
  17. Claudellvonhop

    Claudellvonhop Adventurer

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    $8999+ tax, title and $125 dock fee... Input?

    Thanks,
    Chris
  18. Claudellvonhop

    Claudellvonhop Adventurer

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    I suspected it was an '07... Thanks and I'll ask for clarification.

    Still - ~$4K in accessories on the thing... Nice custom seat too which wasn't mentioned in the ad.
  19. andrewgore

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    Maybe the bike market is different than cars, but usually when something is used, and has modifications, it goes for less money. Mostly due to the fact that most people are very particular in the accessories people put on. I'll find out what an 09 is OTD in a couple hours tonight, we can use that as a comparison (no accessories other than ABS and maybe the rear rack).

    Andrew
  20. loco rider

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    I'm selling mine with a very similar set up (2007, ABS, handguards, BMW screen, 2,000 miles). Asking $7500. May be a bit far for you though -- I'm in San Francisco. See ad:
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364723