Solving Over-Filling Fuel Spills

Discussion in 'Trials' started by motobene, Jun 6, 2017.

  1. motobene

    motobene Motoing for 46 years

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    I tried to be careful at a recent New Mexico event, but still spilled fuel on the bikes from over filling. A loud nearby stream prevented me from hearing the tone change from fuel-level rise.

    A spill really lights up my language! I hate sticker damage and premix oil stains!

    On the new 250, one spill stuck dust to the cylinder, and the heat then baked the mess to where it would not pressure wash off. Fortunately, I had a can of spray brake cleaner with me to break the bond, but it took a whole can!

    Trials bikes fuel tanks are very easy to over fill! I'm very interested in solutions.

    Bruce Bolander showed me a 2-gallon plastic fuel container he has had for years. A short stem flows fuel when pushed against the tank, then when the level reaches the spout tip, flow stops. Lifting the spout off the tank shuts off a valve for no overflow.

    I want one!

    Bruce said the tank was made before the Californication of fuel tanks, so it may no longer be available. I didn't get the brand, unfortunately.

    How do you all solve this problem?
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  2. heffergm

    heffergm Long timer

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    I bought a Vertigo specifically to solve this one conundrum... tank in the middle, and it's see through like a KTM ;)

    I jest... the clear tank is handy, although I basically have to use a funnel due to where the tank is located. I'd suggest the funnel as a big help in general, since it's usually easier to see the fuel cresting inside the mouth of the funnel as it's a lighter color, and it drops a short way into the tank giving you a little more reaction time, but on a 'normal' bike with the tank being where it is I don't think that's going to work.

    That said I don't really have problems on my other bikes. I just watch really really closely and pour slowly...
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  3. no2tracks

    no2tracks Been here awhile

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    I use a regular large gas bottle BUT I put a 90* reducer on the end. It goes from the regular 1/2" down to 1/4" after the 90. Smaller slows fuel going in and the 90 works well. Got it in the sprinkler plumbing dept.
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  4. 10K

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    First world problems.
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  6. oldyams

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    I use one of these. With the thumb button you can control the flow. After getting these I tossed the old ones.
    The only problem with I can see is they collapse quite a bit when it cools off quickly.
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  7. massrider

    massrider Been here awhile

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    +1 These are the best gas cans! Tip it up with the nozzle in the tank and the gas doesn't flow until you push the button with your thumb, release the button and the flow stops almost instantly.
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    BEEF706 King of the dumb dab

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    well, I guess I'm stopping at Ace on the way home, I was afraid I was gonna set my Beta on fire at Sipapu, (although the way i rode it might have been the wiser move)
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    Will not work on a trials bike, at least a modern bike.
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  11. Gordy

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    https://www.amazon.com/No-Spill-1405-2-1-2-Gallon-Poly/dp/B000W72GBC

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    I also have several of these and love em.

    While they won't auto-shut off when fueling the Beta they work great on the Sherco. The neck has to fit far enough into the tank and the Betas won't allow that.
    With the Sherco, just push the button and wait for it to stop.

    They work great for generators too.
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  12. Takataka

    Takataka Been here awhile

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    I think that's the best answer. Treat it like an exercise in concentration and awareness...
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  13. motobene

    motobene Motoing for 46 years

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    What Bruce had looked like an old version of the No Spill. I'm getting two of these, or maybe three!

    Unless the Tuff Jug has a smaller size, I don't want something that mongo.

    The big tanks work for the fuel suckers, but just take up space for trials. One 2-gallon tank is often enough for a 2-day event for me, as long as I come day 1 with a full tank. Mr. No Spill I see is 2-1/2 gallon, so even better. When I go with two bikes I can take one for a one-day event and two for a two-day event!
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  14. motobene

    motobene Motoing for 46 years

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    I have been using industrial metal tanks that don't puff out or collapse, but pour control isn't very precise.

    All of the post-Californication fuel tanks are sealed (required) with a spring-like valve which isn't usually designed to last and often leads to the very thing the law was supposed to prevent, spilled fuel and vapor loss.

    Most modern tanks are made of blow-molded plastic, so you see the effects of high and low pressure trapped vapor.

    Being sealed plastic tanks will puff out and suck in. That gets irritating, but does have the benefit of not allowing ingestion of atmospheric water except when you open the spout to fuel. This helps keep water away from fuels, especially the water-loving fuel ethanol.

    One of the mechanism for problems with E10 is a leaky tank left out in the rain after a hot day. Vapor contraction when the tank cools will draw in water running over the leak, wherever that is.

    So... I'm hoping the No Spill valve design is robust. Sounds like it is!

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  15. Gordy

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    One more thing. Be careful with the no-spill cans if you leave them in the sun.
    Pressure will build and when you press the button a blast of hot gas vapor will come out. If you have it pointed in the bikes tank, you get a facefull. Just make a habit of pressing the button one time pointed away from things.
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  16. Champe

    Champe Been here awhile

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    Bought one from Ace Hardware because of this thread. The government mandated spouts from the past few years had me frustrated. And the older cans are very hard to get spouts for. These No-Spill cans are the balls.

    Gordy's post has a link to Amazon. $18 there. $25 at Ace Hardware. (2.5 gal. version)

    Now that I have tried the 2.5 gal size , and like it, I am ordering the small 1.25 gal size from Amazon.

    I did find a complaint in the reviews. Has to do with the stiff child-proof device on the black cap. Easy to fix with some wire cutters.
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    My Dad has a funnel with a little float/pop up valve thingy that lifts so you know it's almost full.
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  20. Norman Foley

    Norman Foley Devotee of the Husqvarna

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    I use the same can. Definitely splash proof in a small trials bike fuel filler hole, but you can definitely overfill if not careful.
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