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Discussion in 'Trials' started by motobene, Jun 6, 2017.
Given I overfill due to fuel in a funnel and having to stop short, Surecan is not for me.
The sure can is much better than a funnel. there isn't much fuel in the hose plus you can control the flow with the vent lever. I like mine but with all of them i guess i just need to watch closely.
A fuel transfer pump is one option I considered. What is left in the hose concerns me. Do you plug the hose? Drain it back into the fuel tank?
So far the NO-SPILL option is looking very good.
Pour the fuel in the pipe into a small plastic can, pour it back in the jerry can at home with a funnel.
It just saves dirt dust ingress in jugs funnels etc, clean and no messing around putting a fuel dripping funnel into a plastic bag and all its problems trying to keep dirt out of it.
No cloths to wipe out funnels and looking down the funnel neck to see filth and dirt down where you cant eassily get it out, cutting a twig from the hedge row to try and clean out the spot is boring struggled with this for years, jugs with welded on funnels are an ok idea, but again they need to be kept free of dirt at home or in the van.
Those little pumps are not the perfect solution, but i will say the best i have come across for gassing up bikes etc when away from home. .
I drilled a hole through the plastic by the button and put a cotterpin through the hole. The can no longer expands with heat or contracts with cold. I just pull the pin befor using and depress the button with my thumb like normal.
I had one of those "no spill" caps that fit the 2-½ and 5 gallon utility jugs. Used if to years, worked great. Never found another.
One day I tipped the utility jug over and it broke that filler. Not the universal part on top, but the adaptor to the jug. On the never ending search for another.
Ace Hardware has the No-Spill caps for $9.95 . They are a larger diameter than what you find on the common plastic gas cans. I have not checked Amazon, where the cans are a bit less expensive.
I suppose if you just break the seal in the hole location, you can prevent bloat and later such-and-such and also somewhat abate atmospheric exchange. In other words, not quite sealed but not fully open either.
What happens if the can tips sideways with the pin in?
One other neat feature of the pump i thought worth mentioning, is that you never need to touch the jerry can once its loaded on the van or trailer if you dont want too, we have a VW LT sprinter size van, one of the rear door cards i just removed, slit some old rubber hose i put over the sharp edge of the lower door reenforcement and sides, i tie wrapped this hose in place and stuck some hardboard with sicoflex to the door skin inside to help stop dents and damage. And all we do is sit the jerry can on the lip sort of inside the door and fasten the can up through the handles with a small webbing pull strap and a elasticated hook strap at the lower part of the can to help keep it back against the door pannel, just thread the webbing through the bolted on door handle on the upper enforcement.
I can open the door fuels there on the door pluss i can shut the door yet leave the other one open if need be to load or work.
No cost or fabrication time as such but on the LT35 or similar sprinters etc, this can be easily done and its practical, i did think about fabricating a simple flat bar rack up to drop the jerry can in, but to be honest thismethods working fine so just go with it as explained.
We are born with poor pouring skills, witness the kid pouring milk into his Cheerios. With a little patience and practice it can be done into any hole with any container. I have seen some amazing pours done by factory mechanics. Personally I swear by the No-Spill cans and try and keep them in the shade.
My can is only the 1 gal plus or mabey 1.25 gal so this can is wider and longer than it is tall. It is stable and has not tipped over yet.
Rats! I forgot to order No-Spill containers yet.
Here at the ranch I have about 20 fuel containers. I live 40 miles from our resupply city, so having buffer fuel around is important for reducing trips to town.
Most of the fuel containers are plastic and pre Californication with nozzle caps missing and aluminum foil to seal out dust. Many are getting long in the tooth, but I can't seem to toss them as in some crisis they can all be used to store fuel.
Six containers are 5 gallon metal with spring-like, cork-seal lids actuated by the lift handle. If you tilt the gasoline-version (red) tanks when hot when you lift them, fuel can spray out. Interesting design, but one must take care. One plastic container was manufactured in Oklahoma, but the lawyers destroyed that business and the jobs. You know the shake-down, some idiot pours gasoline on a campfire, creating a swindling opportunity by saying the company failed to warn against turning left before hosing the fire... or was it right? Maybe picking the nose just before....
I have two of the big cans I store 1/2 racing fuel and 1/2 E10. Then I transfer that to a 2-gallon version of the same tank when I mix in oil. It's this final can the No-Spill will take the place of.
Another place to get the No-Spills is Tractor Supply, according to my tenant. He says they cost about what they are advertised for on Amazon.
Too bad they don't make No-Spill caps for the older containers. I have a big collection (around 20) with crappy spouts, but the jugs are still good. It's a shame to discard them when all they need is a decent spout.
I pour from one crappy jug to the better one all the time. In fact we were at the lake and just got home with two 5 gallon cans of non ethonal and tranfered jugs.
It's amazing any fuel can or fuel can component supplier company survives lawyers and their blame-others idiot accomplices, and government regs. That's maybe why there are little-to-no spout alternatives though market demand for better, or non-Californicated nozzles is high.
They don't, that's why the cans all come from China. Saw a documentary a while back about a company in the midwest that the lawsharks put out of business because one drunk idiot ignored the federally mandated warning sticker and caused himself some bodily harm.
The cotter pin mod holding the button down has a good use. If you are draining a large can and will use it all, it is less effort if you can lock down the button. Even better would be a design in which you push the button all the way down for lock open. Push again to release the lock. I know the response already - the nanny state does not allow it.
Leaving the nozzle wide open while not using the can is not really useful to me. As motobene pointed out, a tip-over would cause a nasty spill. For me, I like the option of carrying the container in a car or van - but I do not want to smell it. The can needs a very good closure for that - and the No-Spill delivers.
I wonder if they are a listed corporation. I should buy some of their stock.
That was the Perry, Oklahoma company Blitz, I think it was. Years of lawfare then fourty employees lost their jobs.
As an aside, a trials friend of mine in Michigan in the '90s used to show up at events with 1-gallon plastic milk containers with premix in them. He drove around with them in his car!
Until I pointed out that if he had a wreck the flying containers would slam into the next thing forward and create instant fuel-air bombs!
Finally got around to ordering 2X 2-1/2 gallon and 1X 1-1/4 gallon No-Spill tanks. Since I live in the boonies, Amazon the growing monster, is my friend.
The three will allow taking just enough fuel for one or two-day events, one-or-two bikes.