SoMD Adventure Riders Continental Divide ride 2012 (planning phase)

Discussion in 'Americas' started by blaster11, Oct 20, 2011.

  1. blaster11

    blaster11 Some days.....

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Oddometer:
    7,221
    Location:
    Southern Maryland
    <iframe src="http://www.countdownr.com/external.html?logo=http%3A%2F%2Fblaster11.smugmug.com%2FOther%2Flogos%2Fi-7WDQNQ3%2F0%2FTi%2Fsmib-black-Ti.jpg&alert=&time=2012_06_30_07_00&title=Continental%20Divide%20Launch&repeat=0&url=&background=transparent" frameborder="0" height="130" scrolling="no" width="320"><a href="http://www.countdownr.com">Countdownr</a></iframe>
    [​IMG]

    Start point: Maryland
    Time frame: 29 June - 22 July
    Duration: 3 weeks (24 days)
    Total mileage (approx): 8600 miles door to door
    Direction: South (Mexico border) to North, (Canadian border) maybe a bit further(Banff).
    Accommodations: Probably a bit of camping and a bit of hotel, guesstimate about every 3 days hitting a hotel to freshen up.
    Participants: 6
    How to get to the start: Riding!

    Actual trip information
    Departure date/time: June 29 @0900 hrs
    Meeting/departure location: Wawa in Dahlgren VA.

    1. Blaster11: R1200GSA Riding out
    2. Dorito: F798GS (Twin) Riding out
    3. EOD3MC: 990 Adventure Riding out
    4. Joints4sale: R1200 GSA Riding out
    5. RFlagg42: F800GS Riding out
    6. Lakota: F800GS Riding out

    Plan as of 12 May 2012
    [​IMG]

    Planning meetings
    December 10th, Fredericksburg, VA
    Panera Bread
    1760 Carl D. Silver Parkway
    Fredericksburg, VA 22404
    (540) 785-3411 - Phone

    January 14th, Baltimore/Annapolis area
    Panera Bread
    3931 Town Center Boulevard
    Bowie, MD 20716

    February 5th
    Panera Bread
    1760 Carl D. Silver Parkway
    Fredericksburg, VA 22404
    (540) 785-3411 - Phone

    0900 start time
    March 10th
    Panera bread
    3 Shining Willow Way
    La Plata, MD 20646
    (301) 934-8204 - Phone
    0900 start time

    April 14th
    Cancelled
    May 12th
    Panera bread
    3 Shining Willow Way
    La Plata, MD 20646
    (301) 934-8204 - Phone
    0900 start time

    And the Last one June 9th
    Panera bread
    3 Shining Willow Way
    La Plata, MD 20646
    (301) 934-8204 - Phone

    0900 start time
    Length of meeting: 2 hours or until we are done or ready to ride
    Locations: TBD

    Colorado Mountain pass information: http://bushducks.com/tripreps/passopen.htm

    Rawhyde physical fitness link: http://www.rawhyde-offroad.com/fitness.html

    Ride reports:
    BigDog: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108842
    Cannontracks: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=619934
    Cannonshot: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=603076
    countdown: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=684076
    Questor: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530998
    NCD: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=721127
    http://www.twotaildog.com/Motorcycling_the_Great_Divide/00Intro/Great_Divide_Intro.htm

    A little motivation from Cannonshots ride report, Banff.
    [​IMG]
    A little extra motivation.
    [​IMG]
    Aspen Alley, Wyoming
    [​IMG]
    #1
  2. blaster11

    blaster11 Some days.....

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Oddometer:
    7,221
    Location:
    Southern Maryland
    Trip cost

    Gas: Based on 8600 miles @ $3.50 per gallon average
    40 MPG: $752
    45 MPG: $668
    50 MPG: $602
    55 MPG: $547
    60 MPG: $501

    Lodging: $50.00 average per night
    5 nights: $250.00
    10 nights:$500.00
    15 nights: $750.00

    Food: Lets just say $25.00 per day, it may be more or less depending on what you carry and your eating habits.
    14 days: $350.00
    21 days: $525.00

    Trip total cost: (too many combination's but you get the idea)
    Total 14 day trip: Gas $752.00 + 7 nights (50%) of hotel $350.00 + Food $350.00 = $1452.00
    Total 21 day trip: Gas $752.00 + 10 nights (47%) of hotel $500.00 + Food $525.00 = $1777.00

    Gas: If you can't go 240 miles fully loaded on a tank you may want look at ways to carry additional fuel. This should leave us a bit of a safety margin. Apparently there are a few spots where you have to go 225 miles or so before fill up!
    Riding gear (weather): wide swings in temperature and conditions, choose wisely!
    Tires: Personal choice but a knobby would probably be a reasonable choice, something like a TKC.
    Maintenance: Make sure all your checks and services are up to date, we are talking about a 8000+ mile trip.
    Credit card/ATM: Call your bank and let them know you will be out of the local area with lots of gas charges (may save you/us some problems)
    Spare key (mandatory)
    Gas can
    First Aid kit (mandatory)
    Camera
    Maps and/or GPS
    Bug spray and/or bug net
    Medication: Please bring what you need plus a little extra just in case something happens
    Cell phone (?)
    Satellite phone (?)
    Calling card (?)
    Flashlight/headlamp with spare batteries
    SPOT satellite tracker (optional), I will have mine.
    Sunglasses
    Something to clean helmet visor/windscreen
    Tire repair (tools to remove wheel, spoons, patches, plugs, tubes, bead breaker, compressor/CO2 cartridges, etc)

    Make your own packing list: http://micapeak.com/checklists/mclist.html
    Additional U build it checklists: http://micapeak.com/checklists/
    Emergency medical form: http://micapeak.com/tools/medform.html (Mandatory for everyone)

    Monitor Fire Activity here:
    InciWeb
    Wunderground Map
    USA Forest ServiceGoogle Maps
    #2
  3. blaster11

    blaster11 Some days.....

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Oddometer:
    7,221
    Location:
    Southern Maryland
    While I am happy to maintain a post of folks looking for wingmates to help others, I am unable to accommodate additional folks on our actual journey. Either PM me, or post it on the thread, and I will bring the info into this post. Here's some basic info that might help folks sort out possibilities:

    Name (screen name fine)
    2.) Steed of choice for trip
    3.) Tires you plan to use (really just curious)
    4.) Do you have any helmet communications gear (FRS, SCALA, etc.)
    5.) Preferred lodging (camping, hotels, don't care, or would like some combination of camping/lodging)
    6.) Maximum length of trip you can do (14 days, 21 days, or unlimited time)
    7.) Preferred dates for trip (15 September - 02 August as an example)

    1. GeckoRider (Curtis), F800GS,TKC80, No coms, could pick up a radio, Mixed camping, cheap hotel to clean up/dry off. Probably 3 days camping at least, Flexible time about 3-4 weeks, Late June, early July
    2.
    3.
    4.
    #3
  4. blaster11

    blaster11 Some days.....

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Oddometer:
    7,221
    Location:
    Southern Maryland
    We will be starting near the Mexico border. I am also attaching BigDogs GPX file...thanks!

    [​IMG]

    Idaho/Montana section
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Wyoming section
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Colorado section
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    New Mexico
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Attached Files:

    #4
  5. blaster11

    blaster11 Some days.....

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Oddometer:
    7,221
    Location:
    Southern Maryland
    So I just updated my Campwhere app on my iPod and it looks like they have added a few things...it should come in handy on the trip, lots of information.
    Here is a link if you want to check it out.
    http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/campw...327934291?mt=8

    Here is a short description:
    Campwhere helps you locate and reserve public campgrounds all over the US and Canada. Find the amenities you want, view reliable maps, pull up directions, and get a reservation phone number, all in one app.

    Campwhere provides detailed information on over 10,000 public campgrounds in the United States and Canada. These include all car-accessible US and Canadian National Parks, National Forests, Corps of Engineers, TVA, BLM, State Parks, State Forests, State Recreation Areas, Canadian Provincial Parks, County and City campgrounds. Campwhere operates on the iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch. Much useful information is accessible even without an Internet connection.

    All campgrounds are accurately mapped, providing reliable latitude/longitude and coordinate-based road directions. Campwhere is integrated with the Navigon iPhone App for off-line routing. Most campgrounds have details such as phone numbers, RV hookups, reservations, current and forecasted weather, elevation and more. Web links and phone numbers are provided for further information.

    Well over half of all public campgrounds DO NOT accept reservations &#8211; Campwhere is the only app that tells you which do and which don&#8217;t and provides a reservation phone number and direct link to the appropriate reservation web site.
    Campwhere does not include privately owned campgrounds.

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    #5
  6. blaster11

    blaster11 Some days.....

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Oddometer:
    7,221
    Location:
    Southern Maryland
    Tentative Lodging/Campsites

    Mon: 2-Jul-12
    Albuquerque, NM
    Residence Inn Albuquerque North
    4331 The Lane at 25 N.E. Albuquerque, NM 87109 1-505-761-0200
    $81 (Gov Rate)
    Yes-Canx NLT 1600 on 6/3
    Walking distance to dealership
    www.marriott.com

    Tue: 3-Jul-12

    Deming, NM
    La Quinta Inn & SuitesDeming
    4300 East Pine StDeming, NM 880301-575-546-0600
    $60 (Gov rate)
    yes-Canx NLT 1800 6/4
    Bar
    www.lq.com

    Wed: 4-Jul-12
    20 miles south of Grant, New Mexico
    El Malpais National Monument
    N34.99641 W108.09319 (west side)N34.83782 W107.91338 (east side)
    Free, need pass
    West side PrimitiveEast side/RT53 Vault tolietsThe National Park Service also allows primitive camping, but a free permit is required. This can be obtained at El Malpais Information Center on NM 53.
    http://www.blm.gov/nm/st/en/prog/rec...l_malpais.html

    Thu: 5-Jul-12
    Elk Creek, CO
    Spectacle Lake
    N37.16752 W106.43829
    $16
    BathroomsOn fly fishing river
    http://publiclands.org/explore/site.php?id=6183

    Fri: 6-Jul-12
    Brekenridge, CO
    Camp Selkirk
    N39.37251 W105.95138
    http://www.hikercentral.com/campgrounds/115606.html
    Primitive

    Sat: 7-Jul-12
    Saratoga, WY

    Sun: 8-Jul-12
    Pinedale, WY
    Freemont lake camping
    N42.94659 W109.79101
    $12
    Drinking WaterVault toiletsOn Lake
    http://www.reserveamerica.com/campin...O&parkId=70098

    Mon: 9-Jul-12
    Tetons
    Signal Mountain

    Tue: 10-Jul-12
    Gravelly Range
    N44.80069 W111.91562

    Wed: 11-Jul-12
    Camp Elk Park
    N46.17082 W112.35168

    Thu: 12-Jul-12
    Seeley Lake
    N47.19169 W113.51778

    Fri: 13-Jul-12
    Camp Rock Lake
    N48.82264 W115.00969



    [​IMG]
    #6
  7. blaster11

    blaster11 Some days.....

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Oddometer:
    7,221
    Location:
    Southern Maryland
    This is where I will show the gear I am taking: bike gear, riding gear, clothes, camping gear, tools, electronics, and miscellaneous stuff which takes up space.
    Bike gear
    Tank bag: Wolfman
    Luggage: BMW Adventure bags and Aerostich waterproof bags

    Riding gear
    Helmet: Shoei - Hornet Dual sport
    Goggle's:
    Jacket: Aerostich Darien without armor (doubles as rain gear)
    Armor: Bohn Crusader heavy-duty armored shirt
    Pants: Aerostich Darien with knee and hip pads (doubles as rain gear)
    Boots: Sidi Adventure rain
    Gloves:
    Rain gloves:

    Clothes
    Under pants: LD comfort riding shorts (x2)
    Moisture wicking shirts (x2)
    Riding socks (x2)
    Sandals
    Lightweight hiking pants which double as shorts
    Ballcap
    Wool long sleeve shirt for cold days/sleeping

    Camping gear
    Tent: MSR??
    Sleeping bag:
    Cot: Luxurylite
    Cook stove: MSR??

    Tools
    Tire spoons (x3)
    12v electric air pump
    Stock hand pump under seat
    Tire gauge
    Tire plug kit with spares
    Dual sport portable jack stand (no center stand on bike)

    Electronics
    Camera: Olympus Stylus1030 SW (waterproof/shockproof)
    GPS: Zumo 550
    Communications: Scala G4 (modified for ear plugs)
    SPOT satellite tracker with extra batteries
    Laptop for trip updates

    Miscellaneous stuff
    First aid kit
    Maps
    Cleaning kit for windscreen/helmet/goggles
    Powdered drink mixes (Gatorade/Kool Aid)
    Sunglasses
    Baby wipes
    Trail mix and jerky for a quick snack
    Headlamp with spare batteries
    Charger/s for electronics
    #7
  8. blaster11

    blaster11 Some days.....

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Oddometer:
    7,221
    Location:
    Southern Maryland
    Meeting minutes from 5 Feb 2012
    Planning meeting
    Date: 5 Feb
    Time: 08:30
    Location: Fredericksburg, VA
    Panera Bread

    --Michub has thrown his name in the hat, and will be going.
    --Mid winter bike upgrades are progressing. Some of us took "upgrade" to imply total disassembly :D There is great enthusiasm though all around!
    --There is a desire to maximize camping while on the CDR itself. The first night will be primitive (no facilities). For the most part all other nights, are at improved sites most of which will also have water. Some even full-service pay showers. Please check post #6. Hotel reservations can be canx in most cases until day of check-in.
    --Only two stretches have been ear-marked as long runs for anybody not on a GSA. Those occur on Day 1 of the trail between Silver City, NM and Grants. Distance is estimated around 245 miles. Your options are to carry gas or to divert 20 miles off trail and pick of gas west of Pie Town (Quemado)
    The second questionable distance occurs Abiquiu, NM and Rio Grande, CO (Day 2 of trail). Approx distance 175 miles. Gas is also avail approx 20 miles off trail (about 1/2 through in Chama)
    Gas is not anticipated as any issue after those days.
    --Sticker quantity was confirmed at 100 total.
    --Jax stated the cutoff date for his item is 15 March. Please don't delay. If you missed the meeting, please PM Jax for the requirements.
    --The next meeting (10 Mar) will be back in So Md. Place TBD. Please bring your first aid kit to show to others. Also, please bring your GPS unit if you think you will need help loading files so we can see what needs to happen.

    --Open actions as follows:

    1) Michub needs to submit his contact info and bike list
    2) Need to GPX file the suggested route home . J4S has posted a suggested route on the google docs page
    3) Need to ensure that the Cannonshot files are small enough by day etc to fit on the GPS. I will check the files for Zumo 550/650 users. Others (e.g. Delorme) users will need to do this themselves as I understand they don't load GPX files.
    4) Dana/Jax need to identify ship to points in ABQ, NM and also MT for tire shipments
    5) Looking for a location for April meeting. Would like to have everyone bring their packout so we can all look at the stuff folks are bringing.

    Meeting minutes
    Planning meeting
    Date: 12 November
    Time: 08:30
    Location: La Plata, MD
    Panera Bread

    Trip dates verified as good: 30 June - 22 July

    Start point agreed to: Near Mexico border

    End point: A little vague right now...some Canadian border, some Banff, some most likely earlier than that, we will just need to verbalize our intentions to everyone as soon as possible.

    Start of day, meaning on the road: Between NLT 0730 and 0800

    - EOD3MC will be trailering with Jax
    - Multiple SPOT trackers will be used for not only family situational awareness, allow other team members to catch up, but also if separated plan for rendezvous points.
    - Most riders will be using some form of Communication device; Scala G4 as an example
    - Most if not all riders will be using a GPS of some type.
    - Need to identify drop off location for Jax's truck and trailer.
    - Dana is going to work with Cannonshot's .gpx file to fine tune for our needs...probably very little needed as its already outstanding.
    - Need to figure out a file format which will be useable by the guys with the DeLorme GPS's.
    - Blaster is not the leader but a contributing member as everyone else.
    - Erik will be bringing along his portable HotSpot, as long as he has cell service it should work really well.
    - For those needing a tire change prior to starting the CD we will most likely accomplish this in Albuquerque.
    - Tires as usual are very much still being discussed.
    - Will most likely use Google Docs for sharing miscellaneous files and such.
    - I will add a spreadsheet to Google docs which will need to be filled out by each member with personal contact information so we can better facilitate planning within the team. Like real name in case emergency responders would like to know...just kidding!
    - Most plan to camp with hotels about every 3 days or so to freshen up a bit, those who camp the whole way we will work out allowing usage of showers in case none are available.
    - Starting to plan for different time schedules on different days...meaning if I want to stay an extra day in a location to explore how that would effect others on the team and what responsibility does the team have to that rider. These are just some of the dynamics which are being discussed.
    - Discussion on personal conditioning and what will be needed to operate at high altitude for a couple of weeks effectively.
    - Erik is working some MedJet assist options
    - Need to investigate if the guy who gave the first aid/CPR class at Morton's would be willing to give an actual hands on class and what the cost would be.
    #8
  9. blaster11

    blaster11 Some days.....

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Oddometer:
    7,221
    Location:
    Southern Maryland
    Blaster11: R1200GSA
    Pre-filter for air filter: Done
    Tow strap: Done
    Wire power outlet plug directly to battery for air compressor use Done
    Replace final drive: Done
    Standard Maintenance

    Dorito: F798GS
    Chain guide: (BRP): In house just needs installed
    Woody's wheels (spokes): Done
    Adventure Cycle Map set: Done
    GPS upgrade: Done
    Front Springs: Done
    Ricor Intiminators: Done
    Sprocket/engine guard: Done
    ABS Interrupt/Overide Switch/cable: Done
    Standard maintenance 2 parts remain to order
    Purchases Remaining:
    Knob tires--Arrived
    Odyssey battery--Done

    EOD3MC: 990 Adventure
    New Bike: Done
    Upgrade footpegs: Done
    Replace tires (sometime before leaving):
    Install handlebar risers: Done
    Fabricate fuel storage rack: Done
    Validate tool kit:
    Validate fuel mapping (Michub assist): Done
    Throttle lock: Done

    Joints4sale: R1200 GSA
    Investigate/diagnose false neutral between 4th and 5th gear: Done
    Upgrade seat: Done
    Kruz Locker throttle lock: Done
    Adventure case wired for power: Done
    Rotopax mounted: Done
    Purchase drybag: Done
    Camera mount: Done

    RFlagg42: F800GS
    Metal Mule Panniers: Done
    Ohlins front suspension: Done
    Ohlins rear suspension: Done
    Rear shock brace: Done
    Sprocket/engine guard: Done
    Woody's wheels: Done

    Lakota: F800GS
    Kruz Locker: Done
    Battery: Done
    Tires: (scheduled for Albuquerque)
    Shocks: (investigating)
    Mudsling rear splash guard:Done
    Sprocket/engine guard: Done
    #9
  10. EOD3MC

    EOD3MC What will break next

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2009
    Oddometer:
    4,905
    Location:
    Colonial Beach VA
    Is it later yet ? ? ?









    :zilla
    #10
  11. jdrocks

    jdrocks Gravel Runner

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2007
    Oddometer:
    4,583
    ya must want to ride the gravel road in this photo...

    [​IMG]
    #11
  12. joints4sale

    joints4sale No. Not "That Kind".

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2010
    Oddometer:
    3,154
    Location:
    Southern Maryland ---> Front Range, CO
    IN.:clap
    #12
  13. Wheat State

    Wheat State Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Oddometer:
    21
    Do tell. In! :clap:clap:clap
    #13
  14. Hucker

    Hucker Lost

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2009
    Oddometer:
    699
    Location:
    Southern AZ
    Interested and subscribed...:ear
    #14
  15. Scotty P

    Scotty P Funny Like a Clown

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2007
    Oddometer:
    14,358
    Location:
    SMIBville AKA Pax River MD
    What's going on in here......:lol3
    #15
  16. Scotty P

    Scotty P Funny Like a Clown

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2007
    Oddometer:
    14,358
    Location:
    SMIBville AKA Pax River MD
    I'm in like Lady Draco. :D Let's see what shakes out.
    #16
  17. JaxObsessed

    JaxObsessed Jax Off again.

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2009
    Oddometer:
    15,805
    Location:
    From Alabama to Newfoundland it's all Appalachian
    Thank you Bruce! IN!!!!!!
    :lurk
    #17
  18. JaxObsessed

    JaxObsessed Jax Off again.

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2009
    Oddometer:
    15,805
    Location:
    From Alabama to Newfoundland it's all Appalachian
  19. blaster11

    blaster11 Some days.....

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Oddometer:
    7,221
    Location:
    Southern Maryland
    Based on my recent experience with taking adventures with people I don't know, haven't ridden with, or camped with I would say the IN list is very short right now. I am happy to do much of the planning and such but the list of the riders participating with the group will be relatively small and close knit. They know who they are because we have already spoken off line.

    Sorry!
    #19
  20. joints4sale

    joints4sale No. Not "That Kind".

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2010
    Oddometer:
    3,154
    Location:
    Southern Maryland ---> Front Range, CO
    What was the final payout from Rflagg's over/under?
    #20