Someone stop me - I really want to cafe my Ambassador

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by airheadpilot, Mar 12, 2013.

  1. airheadpilot

    airheadpilot Le Poulet du Désert

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    So I have this '71 Ambassador. I bought it as a rolling heap off of eBay on a whim, and had a great time fixing it up. It's apart right now getting a fresh rear main oil seal, but I expect it to be back together and back on the road this month. I did a light cosmetic re-fresh, which mostly consisted of a very nice and very expensive paint job for the tinware and Wixom bags. Here's a photo:

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    I love the way the loopframes look, and the engine is my favorite of all the Guzzis, what with that car-like distributor and the belt driven generator. The thing is, I don't really like riding it all that much. I'm not a cruiser guy, and I much prefer riding my old airheads or my V11 LeMans. This old loop tends to just sit there. So I decided earlier this year that I'm going to sell it as soon as I get it back together and confirm that it no longer leaks oil.

    Trouble is, I'm having a really hard time parting with it. And not in its present form - I keep picturing it stripped of all that pretty paint work and all the other non-essential bits and bobs and kitted out with better suspension and a racy fairing and turned into a cafe racer. Something that I would relish riding. Someone please talk me out of this. I need another bike project like I need a hole in the front of my skull.

    Alternatively, make me an offer on all the painted parts so I can start with my sick obsession.

    Andrew
    1971 Ambassador
    1972 R75/5
    1983 R80ST
    2003 XR400R
    2004 LeMans
    2012 Super Tenere
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  2. eldomike

    eldomike Who Cares

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    Not exactly cafe...

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  3. airheadpilot

    airheadpilot Le Poulet du Désert

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    Yeah, that doesn't exactly help me... :rofl
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  4. Mandello

    Mandello Guzzista

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    let's see:

    vintage air cooled twin,check
    all unnecessary bodywork removed, check
    upgraded exhaust, check
    upgraded electrics, check
    upgraded front suspension, check
    upgraded rear suspension, check
    upgraded brakes, check
    upgraded handlebars, check
    upgraded engine, check
    upgraded carbs, check
    finished top 3 in all (except one 5th place) races entered


    yeah, definitely not a cafe since it's probably never actually been parked at a cafe, can't be done to a loop, sell it.
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  5. Nessman

    Nessman Cluttered Minimalist

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    So I'm not the only one in that situation, I love the look of Loops but every time I ride one I happily get back on my T-3.

    Beautiful bike as it is, there's lots of old Tontis out there that would scratch your cafe' itch.

    Edit to add:

    But this is awesme :clap

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  6. apozzo

    apozzo Adventurer

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    Hi Andrew,
    I'm Stefano and I'm from Italy.
    I've got a Guzzi 850GT (the bike look like the American's Eldorado and Ambassador) and I've decided to cafe it for the same reason you are telling about. But there is an important difference....to realize my dream I've choosen a completely destroied bike! Infact I think that this kind of work can't be done on a good and complete bike as your '71 Ambassador! As you know, this bikes are rare and precious and they must be conserved as Guzzi built them. Naturally this is a personal opinion!!! You can do everything you want to do with your bike....
    My bike now is this......but in this days I'm doing many changes (headlight, fenders and other things).....


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    I hope this images could help you.....
    this is my thread:

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=865075

    Best reguards
    Stefano
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  7. F_Sahms

    F_Sahms mostly paved

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    Sell it and buy a tonti to cafe.
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  8. pbarmy

    pbarmy Long timer

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  9. anonny

    anonny What could go wrong?

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    I'm a little surprised this thread didn't head off in the purists direction :norton

    My take on it is go right ahead but put all the pretty painted things somewhere safe and do you cafe without cutting or altering so you can go back to stock should you get the urge. Would be a real bonus for resale too.
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  10. MZRider

    MZRider Neo-Luddite

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    +1
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  11. eldomike

    eldomike Who Cares

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    +1
    thats the way I suggest also...

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  12. Rob Farmer

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    what a great looking bike. Why would you want to butcher it?

    Sell it to someone would appreciate it as it is and buy something else to chop up. There's only so many of them out there. Be a shame to loose another
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  13. Rathlindri

    Rathlindri Guinness fan

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    +1 what he said.....what a shame it would be to mess that up
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  14. mtiberio

    mtiberio Adventurer

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    Have you tried just putting some low euro/cafe bars on it. It can really transform a loop. My loop is my sport bike, of course my other 2 bikes are a SR50 Aprilia scooter and a 1700 Yamaha Roadstar.

    If I had a rusted out barn find loop I wouldn't think twice about doing a cafe job on it. Why not just buy a $500 basket case?

    ever seen one of these with the fairing off? That is where I would start...
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  15. davebeef

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    My personal inclination is to agree with Rob here. To loose such a beautiful example would be a shame.
    However, and this is a BIG however, it is YOUR bike, bought with YOUR hard earned cash and therfore YOURS to do whatever you like with.
    Just enjoy it.
    Rgds,DB esq.
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  16. usgser

    usgser Long timer

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    It's your bike but agree 100% with Rob. Ride/enjoy that one for what it is and butcher another bike.
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  17. pbarmy

    pbarmy Long timer

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    No butchery needed.Just lose some crap.You can always put it back if you dont cut it.You started with crap anyway,eh?
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  18. danedg

    danedg Horizontally Opposed

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    I'll give you $400 for the front lighting, side covers, Wixoms and seat...
    They'll look great on my Eldo, and you'll have enough cash to trash the rest of the bike.
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  19. davebeef

    davebeef Buffoon

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    I'll make it $450.
    Rgds.:wink:
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  20. dilandau

    dilandau Been here awhile

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    hey, i have the same bike in oakland in TERRIBLE shape. you should cafe it, and give me yours! i have a sidecar that would look great on it.
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