Yesterday I bought the new sony action cam, and had a hell of a time trying to wifi it to my iphone. I'm going to get another VERY basic Drift x170. here are the advantages from my point of view 1. It takes AA batteries 2. Has LCD screen so no need for wifi 3. takes full size SD card ( minis very easy to loose in the bush ). 4. no setup time 5. don't need to bring my iphone/battery charge It seems that I could do what I want with the Gopro black but at $500+ compared to $140 the only advantage would be Full HD but I just want to be able to look and remember quality is not that much of an issue, I don't run a TV station. Anyone else got an opinion on this? Cheers Gordo'