South Africa Tour/Rental Advise/Help

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  1. Cambi

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    My partner and I are planning a tour end of Nov. from Cap Town and wish to receive advises and help from locals. The intention is to rent a 1200GS(A) and 650GS for 10 days between the 24th to the 7th.
    She owns one and I have the F800GS back home.
    Why going for the 1200? I had a free replacement R1200R last week for the 20K visit and although I disliked the frame style, I loved the engine thus it make sense to try a GS(A).

    Anyway back to the trip, the link below shows a draft for anyone to help with place to stay, distance, things to see and do. Road conditions, average speed, danger and annoyance.
    There's a lot of rentals available so if one knows a reputable and helpful company to recommend, I would appreciate.

    My partner is fairly young at riding, 1st bike with almost 10K (3K Transylvania 2 weeks this summer) on the clock and wouldn't accept dirt road which is not flat or technical but I have the inclination to make her live the experience for future trips.... She has the desire to see lions :D

    Thanks a lot for supporting our trip.
    C.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=C...a=dpe&mrsp=12&sz=8&via=1,3,5,6,8,9,12&t=h&z=8
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  2. Mollygrubber

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    Maybe one of Rene's trips will work for you - fellow inmate and all around good guy...

    http://renedian.com/
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  3. Cambi

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    I am not looking at buying a tour but rentals only. The rest will be by the two of us.
    We certainly are going to see, do less but the independence, do it on your own is also part of the experience and adventure.
    Again, anyone with good info's is more than welcomed.
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  4. Africa4Adventure

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  5. Doc Rich

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    I have been told these guys are good for rentals http://www.motorradrentals.com/ although haven't used them myself. They are located near all the major airports so its easy to collect the bikes and get going.

    Cheers
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  6. Cambi

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    Hi Charles - Thanks a lot for offering your services. I will study them with consideration although I am willing to try a 1200.
    We both ride the 650 and 800 at home.
    Question:
    What is the tire standard for rentals? Are they in general road or dirt orientated? Brand and type?
    What is covered with the rent, unlimited mileage, damages up to a certain amount....?
    Are they any danger and annoyance I should be aware off?
    Will you have bikes between the 26th Nov. - 5th Dec.?

    Regarding accommodations, we will go with a comfortable flow of B&B's and/or motels/hotels. It is a short trip so I don't want to compromise my comfort but enjoy myself thus a mix a luxury/low end doesn't hurt. Pretty open here.

    Hi Richard - Yes I found them while searching the net but they are comparatively a little bit up market in term of pricing and charge extra mileage. I haven't started making enquiries about availability but will actively do so over this weekend.
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    Anyone else can make this small adventure a success?
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  8. larryi52

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    Hey, Guys, I have an F800GS in Somerset West that I've kitted out for maximum adventure riding. A local friend also has an F800GS and we ride every weekend when I'm there (I live in Redmond, WA 7 months a year and 5 months in Somerset West). My friend and I went to BikeFest 2011 this past Easter, a national rally for BMW riders. It was headquartered in Oudtshoorn and they had all these great rides planned out that were exhilarating and challenging. One of them is to ride into "Die Hel", which means you are riding into Hell. It was an awesome ride. There are so many great dirt roads around Oudtshoorn that you can explore with one being a 7 pass ride in one day. Check with the BMW Club of Western Cape and they can help you a lot.

    Do not ride on the N2. It is both dangerous and boring. Think riding I40 in Western Oklahoma and the panhandle of Texas. Take the routes less traveled. Ride from Somerset West to Gordon's Bay to Betty's Bay and on to Hermanus and just follow the ocean there. It is both beautiful and spectacular riding.

    Good luck!

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  9. Africa4Adventure

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    I am willing to try a 1200.

    CE - No problem we can organise that for you.

    What is the tire standard for rentals?

    CE - We can fit whatever tyre type you would prefer to use. Full knobbly, trial, dual-purpose, road, etc.

    Are they in general road or dirt orientated?

    CE - typically we offer a choice of Trial or Dual Purpose. The Dual purpose is good on tar.

    Brand and type?

    Many types, so can look fro what you'd prefer, but we supply Heidenau

    What is covered with the rent, unlimited mileage, damages up to a certain amount....?

    CE - Yes unlimited km's. You would have to put an insurance deposit down from which any accident or repairs would be resolved by the insurance company. Comes with a top box.

    Are they any danger and annoyance I should be aware off?

    CE - This is a safe part of the country - very friendly and welcoming. Avoid the N2 in various areas, as it is relatively busy and uninteresting in parts - other parts are Ok like round Knysna, Plett etc. Of course with your requirement to only do tar this may in some cases be the only option if you are sticking to your route. I can suggest some modification to your route which will stick to tar but mostly avoid the N2.

    Will you have bikes between the 26th Nov. - 5th Dec.?

    CE - Yes as it stands right now - but you will have to order soon as we like >30 days notice to reserve them and get them ready.

    Regarding accommodations, we will go with a comfortable flow of B&B's and/or motels/hotels. It is a short trip so I don't want to compromise my comfort but enjoy myself thus a mix a luxury/low end doesn't hurt. Pretty open here.

    OK. - Good call there is a lot to choose from but this is going into high season so get in and book early especially along the seaside part of the trip.
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  10. Cambi

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    Larry - Thanks a lot for taking some of your time to answer with good advises.
    From what I understand, N2 is to be avoided at all cost. Well, it not always possible if you are following the cost :wink: so I will try my utmost to explain to the lady that easy going dirt roads aren't that hard if you follow basic driving skills.
    If something else comes across your mind, please feel free.

    Charles - Could you PM your direct contact so I can call you?

    Anyone else with ideas, opinions and must do/see?
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  11. Africa4Adventure

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    I tried to find the private messaging but using such a slow internet connection as I am away in the mountains at the moment and my phone is using 1G! It's taking me too long!

    The best way to get in touch is to go to the website and leave your details here:
    http://www.africa4adventure.com/index.php/reserve-menu-item/enquiry-form

    Please also tell me where you are from as I couldn't figure it out.

    Thanks regards
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  12. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Great and timely thread as this is something my wife and I are looking into. Appreciate the info Charles.
    We'll be looking at this for next year probably. BTW are there better times of the year to travel?
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  13. Cambi

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    Charles - I filled up the form with a request of quote. There's info/questions too.

    CanadianX - If you require a detailed "report" after the trip, don't hesitate to get in touch with me mid December as I will be happy to feed you with our experiences.
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  14. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Great and most definitely will be interested in your RR and lessons learned. If the timing was a bit to the right I'd consider going this year as well. Sent off a request for info also, guess I got all inspired when I mentioned it to my wife and she was enthusiastic about the idea. I think it was the Ride with Charley thread that set the wheels in motion.
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    The beauty of both South Africa and Southern Africa below the equator is that ALL YEAR ROUND is the best time to travel in one place or another. Best months are April, May & October for all round travel. One can follow these general rules of thumb:

    • Avoid summer rain areas (north & east) by going, south and west (desert and wilds) in an L shape.
    • Avoid winter rain areas (south and south west), by going anywhere north of Graaf Reinet across Southern Africa.
    • Avoid winter cold (high elevations and south). Winter is not too cold with the odd exception for daytime riding because its sunny except along the garden route Cape Town to Port Elizabeth. Avoid Lesotho mountains.
    • Avoid the summer heat (north & west) - Deserts and give or take anywhere north of Johannesburg.
    Hope this makes sense - I have a more detailed analysis by each route we offer if anyone wants it? :deal
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  19. whitedelight

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    Hi Cambi

    The N2 is a National route,not as bad as it sounds,but not really fun to ride.You would be better off going up the R62 through some awesome country and then head over Garcia pass down into Mossel Bay.Just a suggestion.
    Looked at your map,you gonna have to come back at least 20 times to do all the cool rides....:D
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  20. Cambi

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    The more I read and research, the more I think you are right. South Africa has a lot to offer in terms of ADV rides.
    I made some route modification but Google bugs to allow publication. (See above) Here are the main destinations.
    - CPT
    - Hermanus following the coast
    - Outeniqua Pass
    - Wilderness
    - Knysna
    - Port Elizabeth via R339-62
    - Addo parrk
    - Steytlerville / Willowmore either via R335 around Addo or direct via R75
    - Swartberg Pass
    - Back to CPT

    20x.... Hmm! Considering airfares, time to go and back, I might just move there or stay a lot longer :D and bring our own bikes.

    Is Garcia pass a tar or off road?
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