South korea riders

Discussion in 'Asia' started by Just_P_Dirty, Sep 1, 2011.

  1. NPLR

    NPLR n00b

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    A touch over 70,000 a month for unlimited data and a bunch of minutes/text on KT. I didn't pay anything upfront for the phone and I have insurance on it. The phone is a galaxy nexus. Korea sells their phones unlocked which is a thing of beauty, so far I've used it in Philippines, Thailand, China, US and South Africa. Thing of beauty.

    I could see needing the GPS in a big city, I haven't lived anywhere big enough yet to warrant that and the countryside is reasonable to navigate sans GPS. But as you say, each to his own.
  2. Hot Stuff

    Hot Stuff Road Dragon

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    I use a Garmin GPS here in Korea. The maps for Korea are available for about 200 bucks, but updates (when they are available) are only $30. I got my Garmin unit used and it had version 7 maps on it. They are now up to version 10 (released early this year) and I have paid $30 for each new version. I plan my routes in Basecamp before leaving home and keep frequently used routes on my SD card. It helps me avoid big cities, crappy roads, and roads that are off-limits to motorcycles, and routes me directly to the good roads. I carry a road atlas to back up my Garmin, but the Garmin have been indispensable for taking me all over Korea without having to stop and consult my maps.
  3. Squelch

    Squelch Everyday People

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    Quick question for any military folks - I just got my orders, and it says I can't ship a POV because I'm going unaccompanied. Did you ship your bike as part of your HHG? If you want to PM me so we don't clog up the thread with military-specific junk, feel free. Thanks!
  4. Skitch

    Skitch Riding the range

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    I shipped mine as HHG. Obviously, it will count against your total weight, so plan accordingly. You won't regret taking it.
  5. Squelch

    Squelch Everyday People

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    Skitch - thanks for the info. Now I have to figure out how much weight I can bring. I think it's 1/4 my normal HHG total, which would be about 4,000 pounds, so 500 pounds worth of motorcycle isn't bad at all.
  6. Skitch

    Skitch Riding the range

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    I went on a one year remote, and I think I was allowed 10% of the JFTR allowance. I was under with no problem.
  7. Squelch

    Squelch Everyday People

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    Another quick question for military and/or anyone who might know: Will I register the bike in Korea, or keep the Florida registration? Thanks!
  8. Hot Stuff

    Hot Stuff Road Dragon

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    You will register it with the Provost Marshal. They will provide new plates and registration. Keep you current title, but your Florida registration is no good here.
  9. Squelch

    Squelch Everyday People

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    Ok, good to know. Thanks!
  10. Hot Stuff

    Hot Stuff Road Dragon

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    They will provide new plates and registration. Keep you current title, but your Florida registration is no good here. Not sure what documentation they will need when you register for the first time on-post. You will definitely need insurance though. Also a vehicle safety inspection (which can be done by AAFES car care center or the MWR Auto crafts shop).
  11. Squelch

    Squelch Everyday People

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    Well I'm picking up a new F800GS on Saturday, so it should pass inspection no problem! I'm half tempted to throw the plates from one of my old bikes on there for the month or so I have it here before it gets shipped just so I don't have to register it for that month. But I wouldn't do that... :evil
  12. Squelch

    Squelch Everyday People

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    The transpo office here is telling me I can't ship the motorcycle, because my orders specifically say it's an unaccompanied tour, and that I am not authorized to ship a POV. So now I've got to figure out WTF to do - I was supposed to pick the bike up tomorrow, but not if I can't bring it.

    So...who has shipped a bike by themselves? How much did it cost? Would it be better to wait and see about buying one over there? F**k, this really throws a monkey wrench into my plans. :bluduh

    Ok, I've called a few places - looks like it'd be about $3000 to ship the bike from Kansas City. But then I've gotten a few places quote me $900 from LA to Pyong Taek. I could ride the bike to LA (1600 miles) and then fly home...
  13. Hot Stuff

    Hot Stuff Road Dragon

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    Are you authorized Household Goods? If you are you should be able to ship it in HHG. It does not ship as a POV.

    What is your rank? If you are on an unaccompanined tour and are not E-7 or above you may not be authorized a POV in country, and they wouldn't let you register a vehicle anyway.

    If you are only here for one year may be best to just forget about it. Do you plan to stay more than one year?
  14. Squelch

    Squelch Everyday People

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    I'm an O4, so that's not an issue. I plan on staying a couple of years, maybe longer depending on what jobs I can get while I'm there.

    I am authorized to ship HHG, but I'm on an unaccompanied tour, and it says specifically "The shipment of a POV is linked to the movement of dependents." The guy at transpo explained to me that since I am going unaccompanied, I am not authorized a POV. He quoted PPCIG country instructions for Korea. Maybe it's changed since you all got over there?

    I think the main point of it is in this document:

    Apparently even though I'm Priority One, because I'm unaccompanied, the Army expects me to use mass transit and government vehicles when I need to go anywhere in Korea. :huh Thanks, Army.
  15. Hot Stuff

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    I think you got the wrong guy at transportation. Maybe you could elevate this issue? Motorcycles are not shipped as POVs, they are shipped as household goods.

    Maybe you could try this angle... don't ship it as a motorcycle, ship it as "motorcycle parts". Might require partial disassembly to convice them though.

    I have two friends that PCS'd here in the past 6 months (one from Fort Hood and one from Wisconsin), unaccompanied, and it was no problem to ship thier bikes in HHG (one guy is a E8 with a Harley bagger, the other an 0-4 with a Harley Softail). If you need some details we can go to PM and I can tell you where you can get information from them directly.
  16. Squelch

    Squelch Everyday People

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    HotStuff, I just sent a PM, thanks.

    I still think it's a lost cause because the SDDC documents say that, 1. a motorcycle is a POV, and 2. a POV is not authorized for an unaccompanied tour.
  17. Warthog

    Warthog TeutonicChronic

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    If you can't ship a bike, there are options.
    There are used SOFA registered bikes that come up for sale. Mostly Harleys but sometimes other stuff.
    On the Korean economy you can find just about anything. Very good deals on older Honda Transalp bikes, Honda standards 400cc and 600cc. those can be had for $2000 to $4000 www.passo.co.kr
  18. SR1

    SR1 Back in S. Korea

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    One p Robles you're having is there is little commonality between provost or one stop shops in different parts of korea. If you can determine wheter yiu can use camp Humphreys, ill ask for you when i get back (soon).

    Even though they all follow usfk regs, they don't...
  19. Skitch

    Skitch Riding the range

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    I went over on a one year unaccompanied as an O4 and I was able to ship my bike as part of my HHGs. I'm AF and got assigned to Osan AB, so not sure if that changes anything, but it should not, as the regs are joint regs. I'd fight this and get into the JFTR yourself, as i think your TMO is incorrect (would not be the first time).
    To be honest, once you are assigned a shipper, coordinate with them what you will be bringing, and let the know a motorcycle will be in the shipment. I can't see how TMO would care or know as long as you stay within your authorized weight limit.
    Good luck!
  20. Hookapelli

    Hookapelli Meat Popsicle

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    I'm on deck for a 90 day rotation. I'll be there the week after Laguna Seca. I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to bring the bike, but I don't think it'll be worth it for 90 days.

    Even though I'm TDY- I'm still subject to furlough... so I'll get three day weekends while I'm there :D

    I am SO looking forward to this!