Jumping geezuz Lee, are you talking a surgical stone removal? I hate to pry, so ignore. You don't have to answer. I had a stone removed surgically when I was about 20. Up through the urethra. A tool. To grab the stone mechanically and then pull it out. They made me drink about 6 gallons of water a day after; if you don't, the urethra scars over and closes permanent. Trouble is, every time you piss, which is every 5 min, because your drinking 6 gallons of water a day, it rips open the channel again. My oh my it hurt. My broken bones and kidney stone passing were nothing compared to what's coming. Fack moi. Ouch.