Southern Arizona Border Roads

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by dave6253, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. Velocipede

    Velocipede Been here awhile

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    Great RR,just what I need to plan some rides for when I'm in AZ in December for a couple of weeks.Any more you can recommend?
    John.
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  2. dave6253

    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    John, I am pretty knowledgable of the slab routes in AZ, but have just started to scratch the surface of the unpaved stuff. December is a great time to explore the lower elevation deserts in AZ. Since I live here I usually escape to Southern Utah or California when I've got more than a couple days to ride. Actually I leave for another Southern Utah Ride tomorrow!:super
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  3. dave6253

    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    Alone in the Eastern Sierras: A Fall Colors Tour
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    Questor goes to the 2014 KTM Adventure Rally - Taos NM
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    April Shows a New Buddy a Good Time - California & Oregon With KYMike & dave6253
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    April Does It Again - A Scenic SPORT-tour of California & Oregon
    June, 2013, 10 days worth of riding in scenic California and Oregon
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    I Wanna Sleep with You in the Desert Tonight with a Billion Stars All Around
    May-June, 2013, A 2up 5 day trip with Helen to explore Southern Utah and Northern Arizona in a laid back manner.
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    Alone in the Mojave Desert Again - 2013
    March, 2013, A solo 4 day trip to wander around the desert. Valley of Fire, Mojave National Preserve, etc.
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    There's a lot of Color Between Phoenix & Aspen
    October, 2012, A solo 4 day sport-tour to see the fall colors of Arizona, Utah, & COLORado.
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    WAY UP NORTH - To The Arctic Ocean & Back to Arizona
    June-July 2012, Helen joins me for a 25 day journey of 10,000 miles to Alaska and everything in between. My longest trip yet.
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    A Sunday Ride for a Grand Canyon Sunset
    April 2012, a Sunday day-trip on the Aprilia to watch sunset at the Grand Canyon. My first motorcycle video is included.
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    Trouble in John's Canyon... Again (AZ-UT Autumn Tour)
    October 2011 Four days of riding to find fall colors on the KTM. Trouble follows me into John's Canyon
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    April Turns Fifty and Gets Viola-ted: Grand Canyon North Rim
    August 2011, Four days of riding the Aprilia back to the North Rim. This time with the well-known RR Author Viola-tor.
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    The Best of the Grand Canyon With My Son
    June 2011, Five days and four nights of Grand Canyon backcountry with Matthew. The North Rim, Point Sublime & Toroweap!
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    The Coronado Trail from Phoenix in a Day
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    Alone in the Mojave Desert; Death Valley National Park and Mojave National Preserve
    March 2011, Five days alone in the desert. Sand, Rocks, Wildflowers, a Racetrack, and lots of great tracks. I even get to ride with a real RTW Rider.
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    Another Sublime Failure
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    All This, and I Never Left Arizona
    September 2010, A solo ride around various spots in Arizona. Rim Country, Petrified Forests, Sycamore Point, Schnebly Hill RD, Perkinsville Road, Four Peaks
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    Alone at the Grand Canyon - North Rim, Toroweap...
    June 2010, A solo ride to the North Rim, Toroweap, and Zion National Park on the KTM 990. It snowed... in Arizona... in JUNE!
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    Solo to the Chiricahus - Two Up back to PHX
    June 2010, A solo ride from Phoenix, up Mount Graham and to the Chiricahua Mountains of SE AZ. After a few days camping and hiking with the family my daughter joins me for the scenic ride home. We visit Tombstone, Bisbee, Montezuma Pass, etc...
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    The Sonoran Desert, My Son's Homework Project
    April 2010, Matthew rides with me on the KTM 990 on his longest motorcycle journey yet. Highlights from our weekend include; The Apache Trail, The Arizona Sonoran Desert Museum, Saguaro National Park, Pima Air Museum, Skydive Arizona...
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    Alone in the Arizona Desert
    March 2010, A 4 day weekend in Western Arizona on the KTM 990. Kofa NWR, Burro Creek, and Wildflowers are the highlights.
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    PHX-Hewitt Canyon Road-Desert Scenery
    March 2010, A short scenic desert day ride with waterfalls on the KTM 990.
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    Dave & Hel Tour California
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    All the Way Around the Grand Canyon
    June 2009, A solo ride around the Grand Canyon on the KTM 990 including some remote viewpoints on the North Rim.
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    Identity Crisis II, The White Rim Trail, Utah Rocks!
    April 2009, I take the big KTM to conquer the WRT and some other cool roads.
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    Southern Arizona Border Roads
    March 2009 and September 2009, I use the KTM to patrol the Mexican Border Roads and some other scenic places like the Chiricahuas. Two Ride Reports in one and with special guest appearances.
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    Box Canyon Road - Just a Short Ride East of Phoenix
    February 2009, In way over my head on a day ride. First technical stuff on my KTM.
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    Identity Crisis! My Bike Thinks She's a Dualsport
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    The Apache Trail, My Son's First Big Ride
    November 2008, An overnight motorcycle camping trip in the desert with my son on the Aprilia.
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    Images and Words, Scenes from a Memorable Tour
    August 2008, 6115 miles in 10 days! Awesome scenery! Tons of National Parks in the Western US and Canada. As far north as Jasper, Alberta. Tons of photos!!! My longest tour to date. (Married w/Children) Aprilia
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    Arizona's Mt Graham and the Coronado Trail
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  4. lightfighter

    lightfighter where does this go?

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    odds are I will be bored sunday monday and tuesday... and I'm always up for a ride on the GS. AZ-Twin may or may not be up for something given the holiday(his family likes him), but he isnt afraid of the highway on his S needs to associate with it's own kind.

    I'll PM you my cell.
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  5. AZ-Twin

    AZ-Twin Dusty and Thirsty

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    Rick,

    If you make it down this way let me know. Like Lightfighter said, I can usually get out unless we have something family related, but with prior planning I can get time off work.
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  6. ravenranger

    ravenranger rave

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  7. boyfester

    boyfester Urban Explorer

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    Sweet pix.

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  8. LoneStar

    LoneStar WhoopDeDoofus

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    Dave6253 - your report's inspired me to ride out and hit those roads :D

    I'm planning on riding from central Texas out there first part of Thanksgiving week ... if all goes as planned maybe hit Tombstone Monday afternoon and do the loop Tuesday. If anyone else is in the area and wants to meet up that'd be cool. :thumb
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  9. dave6253

    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    Hey! Glad I could help. I just rode the area again Sunday and Monday. Also check out the Chiricahuas. Awesome scenic riding there on roads such as Pinery Canyon and Rucker Canyon. I'd love to join you then, but can't. Ask over in the West Regional forum. I'm sure someone would want to tag along.
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  10. LoneStar

    LoneStar WhoopDeDoofus

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    Sounds great! - Who/What/Where are the Chiricahuas? :lol3
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  11. ravenranger

    ravenranger rave

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    More info on the Chiricahuas

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  12. viola-tor

    viola-tor Needs to ride!

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    Oh yeah! :thumb
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  13. LoneStar

    LoneStar WhoopDeDoofus

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    Thanks Raven :thumb - much appreciated

    Looks like the weather is gonna be great and I'm getting jazzed!
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  14. dave6253

    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    Lonestar, Stay tuned for more route suggestions. I'm about to post more photos from this week's ride here.:wink:
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    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    Special Guest Appearance!
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    As the big fireball in the sky casts the first rays of the day into the Valley of the Sun I'm scooting down the highway already. I'm really looking forward to getting back to those Southern Arizona backroads.

    I blast through the desert headed to a meeting in Tucson.
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    I follow the directions and find the meeting place near downtown Tucson. I don't even have the helmet off yet when I'm greeted enthusiastically. After being online friends here for quite awhile we finally meet face to face. It's like we have known each other forever. Matt Diekman AKA Viola-tor from the great long-running RR VIOLA-TING AMERICA - Chasing the dream of music and motos.
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    We pour over maps over coffee. A plan is hatched. We load up and head out. Two Orange Machines. One still carrying Colorado dust, and one with Utah dust.
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    Matt leads us out of town down Mission Road.
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    We circle a unique cemetary near the famous Arizona Landmark, the historic San Xavier Del Bac Mission. I think this is the first time I've ever seen it, and I've lived here 15 years!
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    We take pics of final resting places and Matt acts like he's never seen a Barrell Cactus.:smile6
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    It was Sunday morning and crowds of poeple were walking to the mission for services. We looked out of place in the parking lot with our loud bikes and fancy attire.
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    The plan was to head to Parker Canyon Lake, then over to Montezuma Pass and figure out where to go from there. I'd never ridden the road to Parker Canyon Lake. Matt has and assures me it's a great road.
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    We stop for gas in Sonoita. We are both getting hungry, so we pull out the maps and revise our plans. Matt has heard of a place to eat in Patagonia he wants to try. We are 12 miles from Patagonia and about 30 from Parker Canyon Lake. We decide we should go eat first, then maybe head down to Nogales and take the Duquesne-Lochiel Road all the way to Montezuma Pass instead. We pull out of the gas station and I decide to take the lead.
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    We are both enjoying this road, but Matt is flipping me off for some reason. :dunno We are 10 miles down the road when I realized why...
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    I start thinking... Matt was right! This road to Parker Canyon Lake is a BLAST!:super Wait a Minute! Parker Canyon Lake?!? I was supposed to be leading us to Patagonia for FOOD!:loco DOH!
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    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    D. All of the Above

    The Chiricahua Mountains are located in the Southeastern Corner of Arizona and includes the Chiricahua National Monument, Chiricahua Wilderness, and portions of the Coronado National Forest. They are tucked out of the way for most and don't often enter most poeples minds when they think of Arizona.

    The Chiricahua Apache tribe inhabited the area. Perhaps the most well known Native American Cheif in history was a Chiricahua Apache. I'll bet you've heard of him?

    Geronimo

    Chiricahua Apache. (1829-1909)

    To the Apaches, Geronimo embodied the very essence of the Apache values, agressiveness, courage in the face of difficulty. These qualities inspired fear in the settlers of Arizona and New Mexico. The Chiricahuas were mostly migratory following the seasons, hunting and farming. When food was scarce, it was the custom to raid neighboring tribes. Raids and vengeance were an honorable way of life among the tribes of this region.

    By the time American settlers began arriving in the area, the Spanish had become entrenched in the area, they were always looking for Indian slaves and Christian converts. It was the Spanish who raided and killed Geronimo's young wife and child and reportedly caused such a hatred of the whites that he vowed to kill as many as he could.
    In 1876, the U.S. Army tried to move the Chiricahuas onto a reservation, but Geronimo fled to Mexico eluding the troops for over a decade. Sensationalized press reports exaggerated Geronimo's activities, making him the most feared and infamous Apache. The last few months of the campaign required over 5,000 soldiers and 500 scouts to track down Geronimo and his band. Geronimo finally surrendered on the urging of his followers in September after the Army promised that after a period of time he would be able to return to Arizona. Geronimo and his followers were shipped to St. Augustine, Florida where many died from malaria or tuberculosis. Geronimo never again saw his beloved Arizona and died a prisioner many years later on a reservation in Oklahoma.
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  17. LoneStar

    LoneStar WhoopDeDoofus

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    That mission looks great - will have to check it out :thumb South of Tucson?


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  18. dave6253

    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    Yes. Not far out of Tucson on the San Xavier Indian Reservation. Take Mission Road or I-19.
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  19. dave6253

    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    I pull over and ask Matt why he hadn't tried to point out my navigation error. He says, That's okay. This road rocks, and he doesn't mind riding it again. He says we should just ride all the way to the lake anyway. We'll worry about lunch later. (I felt like a fool.)


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    We pull out the maps at the lake to find out we don't have to do a complete backtrack. There's a dirt road a little ways back that will take us over to Patagonia. I'm playing with the camera when Matt starts disappearing around each corner faster and faster. He puts on a display of the cornering prowess of the Conti Trail Attacks. I put away the camera and try to catch up.
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    Late for lunch.
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    This is "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" (the name of this pizza on the menu). It may look like any ordinary supreme pizza you can get anywhere, but I assure you it's not. It was quite possibly the best pie I've ever tasted. Great bread and the best ever sauce!:thumb Highly recommended! I will return.
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    We're feeling good after lunch.
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    We head towards Nogales and jump on The Mexican Border Road, aka Duquesne-Lochiel Road. We climb the first pass and stop for photos when this inmate appears. Jerod Crean is stationed at nearby Fort Huachuca.
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    After getting aquainted with Jarod we decide to ride together awhile.
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    We stop at the Monument outside Lochiel to pay homage to our fellow explorer.
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    Photo Credit; Viola-tor (with my camera). Matt what did you do to Jarod. It looks like he wants to kick your ass.:lol3
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    Oh the sacrilege! The monument has been Viola-TED!
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    Eat My Dust!:evil
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  20. viola-tor

    viola-tor Needs to ride!

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    Hey, I know that guy! :lol3

    I gotta get my photos loaded up, this is fun! You little cam (AND the big) are looking good!

    What a beautiful day to ride that was!

    BRB...