Southern Maryland ADV Riders doing the Shane Watts 2 Day Dirtwise Class

Discussion in 'Southeast, The Lair of the Dragon - The Blue Ridge' started by blaster11, Mar 27, 2011.

  1. blaster11

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    I don't have pictures right now but on the warm up lap through the woods Dana rips the side number plate off and smashes the air box. Andrew got us some Duct tape and Wattsy sealed everything back up so we could continue on with the day. :eek1 :lol3
  2. Tom_WR450F

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    My bike is somewhat damaged........i'm a little tired.......Shane Watts is incredibly fast (hence the damaged expansion chamber trying to keep up with him)............but I'm in great spirits! evryone is doing extremely well! looking forward to tomorrow! time for a shower...some Advil...and my bedy-by basket............
  3. RFlagg42

    RFlagg42 One hoopy frood....

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    LOL :rofl
    Thanks
  5. blaster11

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    No reason to be sucking up but you are in fact correct. :D
  6. EOD3MC

    EOD3MC What will break next

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    I'm just trying to teach the bike how to do things so it's easier for her when she does ride it...:lol3
  7. Dorito

    Dorito Dreamer and Doer

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    Well, well, well what a day!

    So starting the day in good spirits. The "warm up" lap was a bit more than I had imagined. It was my first time on a non-dirt trail/jeep trail. Needless to say, about 1/4 way got a bit over-faced at the first big uphill, and decided to bail out on a stump that was cut off at 8" about the ground.

    As my kinetic energy dissipated, I laid there in a heap of broken parts the worst of which was a broken air box.

    Meanwhile, the rest of the group had clearly lapped us..but I did make it out alive. Wastsy is incredible resourceful and was able to patch the "dittle air box" back good enough to continue the day.

    The day was rough though, besides my air box we took out a KTM needing a new spark plug (and a HUGE kudos to Watsy to loaning the downed KTMer with his ride). Next on the carnage list was a shift level on another bike, and another incident that I can't remember now. Honestly, the little waist pack tool kit is quite remarkable!

    There was no lack of spills, thrills and falls. From above, I fell on the warm up lap and also one the first exercise (slow ride). A few bikes literally part company with their riders on the gate training/acceleration training. We were lined up 4 across, elbows nearly touching then LAUNCH! Well, good thing I was a 125cc against the 2-stroke boys and thus way SLOW. Next thing I knew a bike was flying across my lane.
    Joints4sale had a rather enthusiastic day, and may have won the perseverance award. Had a bit of a rough go with careening into the ruts exercise.

    We even got in the infamous Blaster to take a spill on the circle countersteer/drifting. I believe Badguy and EOD3MC might have joined him on that one too.

    Ending the day, EOD3MC decided to tumble +/- 40 feet on the last exercise of the day accelerate, brake, corner exercise.

    All in all, we all lived to see Sunday.

    For those interested, the log exercises are mid-morning about 1030ish.

    PS I learned a new guy term today--"Nuttered" regarding one transition from standing to sitting and then cornering hard without hurting oneself...
  8. EOD3MC

    EOD3MC What will break next

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    Corrected

    And nope...didn't drop it in the circle drills...but I did make up for it on the oval drill..:D
  9. Scotty P

    Scotty P Funny Like a Clown

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    Nice job SMIBs
  10. blaster11

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    EOD3MC, Dorito and I will be at RT301 Truckstop (1/4 mile before the Harry Nice Bridge In Maryland) at 0630 for chow. Sorry for the early time, but got to be riders up for Wattsy class 1.5 hrs later.
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    Scotty P Funny Like a Clown

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    I have to cook my sweetie breakfast and then change the brakes on the Honda Accord:clap
  12. joints4sale

    joints4sale No. Not "That Kind".

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    BOY! What a day! I am incredibly sore. While learning to do "stopies" I tweaked my right shoulder bad. The damage from that started affecting my riding the rest of the day(I can't actively raise my right arm, I must have torn my rotator cuff). During our rutt exercise I went down HARD on that same shoulder. At first I thought I broke something, but ended up not doing any additional damage. I made a point in marking my territory all over the place, I might have to change my screen name to "Crash Jordan".

    So if you crash as much as I do you might find this little trick helpful.

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    joints4sale No. Not "That Kind".

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    Won't make it to breakfast in the AM, but I'll see everyone at the park.
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    JaxObsessed Endeavor to persevere.

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    Jeez Erik, First the ankle now the shoulder.... You just wanna be me don't cha? :):rofl

    PS.. I hope you heal quickly and uneventfully.
  15. Hack

    Hack .......

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    ^ yeah but he probably gets better deals on replacement parts than you :D I wanna say have fun SMIBs but SURVIVE seems to be more the word for today.
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    Ruts sucks. I cracked a rib or two and smacked my helmet(hard enough to get dizzy) dropping into a rut, catching a fork on the side of it, and going down a couple years back...
    Hope your shoulder isn't too messed up.
    Looks like for the most part it was a fun time!
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    Scotty P Funny Like a Clown

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    Did everyone survive today??
  18. Dorito

    Dorito Dreamer and Doer

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    I will take my hat off to Wattsy as he is one person that truly loves his job. He&#8217;s probably got more bike talent in his little finger than I have in my entire human. The man can truly handle a bike like it is a third arm. He certainly was able to explain the exercise, provide real-world experience and demonstrate the exercises with ease. There is absolutely no doubting his talent on a bike. With very minor infrastructure, Wattsy was able to craft many different exercises. In fact, it is surprising how many things you can practice on a flat piece of land, which can be varying complexity and intensity. I would probably consider another class.

    However, having just come home the BMW performance center 2-day off road course last weekend, this course was more different that I could imagine. I would have never survived the Wattsy class without the skills learned then. It was interesting that some core skills are the same regardless of the bike or track. Front brake locking, rear brake skidding, hills up and down rider position were prevent in both classes.

    As a novice (dirt) rider, I would rather learn a technique properly from the beginning than learn a bad habit which invariably impossible to break later--> Practice doesn&#8217;t make perfect; Perfect practice makes perfect!

    Wattsy was very encouraging and never angered the entire day. However, I know he recognized I was the novice but just ran out of bandwidth to coach me to great success. I would have really preferred the exercise lanes to be tailored to receive feedback on every loop, rather than a &#8220;survival of the fittest&#8221; race we often found ourselves in. The latter, I suspect is part of the deeply rooted MX mentality that &#8220;if you aren&#8217;t on the throttle, you&#8217;d better be on the brake&#8221; and I am the outsider wondering why. Riding dual sport, you learn to take care of other riders, because you are so far from home . The MX mentality appears to be cutoff other riders off at all expense, non-safety conscience, almost appearing to down-right lack manners and sensible judgment.

    I accomplished great things when Wattsy was able to personally coach me through it for the rookie errors that I was making. For example, I did my first wheelie mid-morning, and before lunch he had me over a 2 FT diameter log! I found the warmup lap daunting on the Sat AM and got completely overfaced. But by Sun PM I was confident that I could get through it despite my pokey speed.

    Constructive criticism:
    1) Safety&#8212;There were numerous acts that I found to be dangerous. The exercises didn&#8217;t allow control of the riders nor their MX mentality, despite a training event. For example, while I was setting up for a turn other riders would cut to the inside, then screw up their line leaving me and other riders to concentrate on accident avoidance rather than skill development. Riders often failed to yield right of way to fallen riders, often even roosting them as they tried to regain themselves. Late on the last day during the hill climb, there were multiple bike collisions, riders falling into trees and general mishaps. I would absolutely agree that learning to start a bike on a hill is a most useful tool, however, it would have seemed prudent to find a smaller incline to practice the start/stop hill exercise as most appeared to get through on luck and ignorance rather than true developed/mastered skills.
    2) Breaks&#8212;Really need to encourage riders to take off their helmets and get off their bikes for rest/water. Need a mid-morning and mid-afternoon break. A lot of energy wasted on sitting on a bike, that could be used to learn techniques. Most riders were spent mid-afternoon. Lastly, with only one instructor, there was nobody to ride "drag". The novice slowpoke, was left to find my own way home off the trail multiple occasions.
    3) Exercises are meant for training. However, need to provide riders more room to practice. The exercise with acceleration in the straight lines needs to provide riders with more room between lanes. The 4-circle exercise would have also benefited from moving the circles themselves away from each other.
    4) It&#8217;s tough to cater to advanced and novice riders, but the student to instructor ratio (16:1) made it difficult to provide consistent feedback to during exercises.
    5) Recommend either adding a block to the registration form on experience or asking students to ensure students don&#8217;t get overfaced. Although every rider needs to ride their own ride, you can surely get yourself in too deep quickly.
  19. JaxObsessed

    JaxObsessed Endeavor to persevere.

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    Thanks for the synopsis Dorito. How did the others take it? Joints's injury? :lurk
  20. EOD3MC

    EOD3MC What will break next

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    Bike cleaned up, gear put away and damn am I tired...Great last two days though.

    I would have to agree with Dana's critique...There were times were I was more worried about keeping up then focusing on the lesson as well.

    There were things that could have been better, but overall, It was a class well worth taking. There were many things that I know will prove useful not just with off-road riding.

    Shane did a great job..