Sparky the electric sidecar

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  1. JustKip

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    If you leave off the "smug" part of my statement, definitely! People who don't if it's broken or not need their hand held.
    But I was talking about people who are proud of making poor choices.
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  2. TurTal

    TurTal Been here awhile

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    We've kicked the idea of a Hub motor with controller for the Tub wheel

    You could easily convert any 1wd to a 2wd


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  3. windmill

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    Is it the same word for those who claim their personal outlook or opinion is the only possible reality?

    As someone who is a longtime Ural owner, owns 2, and have found them to be reliable for how I use and abuse them, I find comments such as "buy new shit, already broken" repeated ad nauseum, equally insulting and condescending. It ends up coming across as only stupid people buy Urals.

    It seems kind of disingenuous to constantly bait a group, then cry foul when you get a bite. I'm not saying you're a bad person, or a jerk, but perhaps toning down the snark might be something to consider.

    And yes, I think it should work both ways. No need to answer snark with snark because in the long run nobody wins, as its just keyboard pollution.
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  4. TurTal

    TurTal Been here awhile

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    Oh man I sure hope that doesn't mean the TurTal can't start a little trouble now and again

    If so...that ain't gonna be no fun



    Stop making sense !


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  5. JustKip

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    I'm sorry you see it that way, especially since the same could be said of BMW or Harley
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  6. davide

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    Personally, I would love an eUral. Saw that Jaguar is launching a new electric awd SUV with 2 electric motors, one for each axle and immediately thought about a hack with a driven sidecar wheel, mega battery pack inside car for long distance range, solar panel on rear rack for partial recharge while on the go or parked. Actually, I had expressed this opinion on this very forum some time ago and was derided by someone. As much as I love all motorcycles, I also believe that it is inevitable that we move on and away from ICE engines and if Zero can deliver, so can Ural and everyone else. The instant power/torque of an electric is perfect for getting a heavy hack off the line. Maybe we will have the AC/DC Special Edition with an electric guitar bolted to the side!
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  7. windmill

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    Yes, there could be a lot less needling of "those different from me".
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  8. windmill

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    Just a couple days ago HD made a major investment in a E-bike manufacturer, and they're not exactly in strong financial shape these days. It seems the writing is on the wall.
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  9. kshansen

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    I had given thought to converting my work sidecar outfit to electric one time. But not knowing how to build a low cost controller to be able to vary speed of the motor never went far with that idea. It probably would have been a very good application for an electric drive outfit as my commute was all of one mile. Could probably have gone a week or two before needing to charge it up.
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  10. Mr. Cob

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    I know nothing, well I do but I value my life and Igor is a bad Motheruker who Ilya will turn loose on me if I say anything.

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  11. JustKip

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    As long as it's electric, I don't see any reason to leave the front wheel out of the party!
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  12. Strong Bad

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    An battery powered OOOral would be a giant leap forward, just think of all of those crappy bits that won't be needed anymore! After all, the engine and drive train were the weakest links in the rig!
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  13. DRONE

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    Wow! This thread went sideways in a hurry!
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  14. rantingsmith

    rantingsmith Quadrilingual blacksmith seat of pants engineer

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    Wadda ya expect from a sidecar thread..

    But seriously and getting back to the intriguing picture in the OP, I believe electric would be a fantastic way to go for a sidecar for all the obvious already stated reasons, although less so for all the slating of the durability or appropriateness of the current mechanics (there was a thread for that somewheres and everybody already put in generously with ol' tURtAL almost solitarily flying everyone's favourite ex-communist make's flag like some oversized glorious Red Square Statue to honour the achievements of The Mighty Ural).

    And yes 2wd would be great and even 3wd possible without too many complications after all the 2wd electric MX is already available..

    I would however like to see a hybrid. Keep the engine for aiding long distance trips and the electric for all the low speed stuff, add a bunch of modern stuff like auto off at traffic lights abs and switchable anti-slip driving modes, maybe add better weather protection, self-drive compatibility, hey, why not add an extra wheel for more carrying capacity..

    ..hang on.. I've gone too far, haven't I?

    Ok so maybe just the hybrid engine then..

    Cheers,

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  15. rantingsmith

    rantingsmith Quadrilingual blacksmith seat of pants engineer

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    Also, where's the exhaust? Not familiar enough with the Mighty Ural to know if I should be seeing an exhaust from this angle..?


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  16. rantingsmith

    rantingsmith Quadrilingual blacksmith seat of pants engineer

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    So I just did a bit of google-foo and found out that Fed-Ex are majorly pushing the development of hybrid and electric delivery vehicle development from loads of manufacturers which might explain the Fed-Ex jacket wearing rider on the E badged Ural. Can't find any official statements regarding an electric Ural or working together with FedEx yet, might slap the pic on their respective twitter streams and see what bites...


    Did find this though which is a bit of fun:



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  17. rantingsmith

    rantingsmith Quadrilingual blacksmith seat of pants engineer

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    So the pic is out in the twitterverse and I've asked the direct question to both Ural and FedEx, hopefully someone will give us some more info soon..

    Oh, yes sorry whitham_wannabe I borrowed your pic in the hope we can find out more..


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  18. davet2

    davet2 Been here awhile

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    I'm sorry, I should have just said that is a Ural I might be tempted to buy.
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  19. High Octane

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    I’d rather see a steam driven Ural. With a boiler fired by all the bs around here.
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  20. rantingsmith

    rantingsmith Quadrilingual blacksmith seat of pants engineer

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    Nobody is forcing you to take part.


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