Sparky the electric sidecar

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  1. Poacher Bob

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    They all do that.
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  2. MarkC

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    Perhaps the driver of that rig just happens to work for FedEx? Not as a vehicle evaluator, but a FedEx employee who drives freight trucks, a longtime Ural owner, owns 2.. Anyone here from WA state, have close ties to IMZ-Ural and work for FedEx? @windmill ?

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    You all are too funny.
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  4. rantingsmith

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    This is of course entirely possible.

    The rig’s license plate of 8883 followed by a letter puts it in direct sequence with the Urals provided to magazines for testing out the new EFI setup as pointed out somewhere in this tread though so it is likely the machine belongs to Ural themselves whose headquarters are not far from where the shot was taken.. now part of the FedEx mission statement is to have something like 20% of all it’s journeys performed by electric or hybrid vehicles, they also have a press release on their website which states that they are working with car, engine and technology companies all across the US to determine what the next fleet of FedEx vehicles will be. The Ural could be the perfect vehicle for the so called ‘last mile’.
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  5. rantingsmith

    rantingsmith Quadrilingual blacksmith seat of pants engineer

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    Yes.
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  6. Mr. Cob

    Mr. Cob Howling "Mad", Adventurer

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    As the cat is out of the bag as it were, the last time I was at Little Irbit, about three weeks ago I noticed a Ural that just didn't look quite right and when I took a closer look I saw that it was electrically powered. Just as I was about to start snapping photos Ilya comes around the corner and says NYET, this Ural does NOT EXIST. Having worked with these folks for close to 13 years I knew better then broadcast the news of this experimental rig.

    Later that day I had the pleasure of taking the rig for a short ride. Folks who know me will attest to my liking the old carbed bikes better then the new fueli so when I tell you that I LOVED riding the "Elctro-Glide", did I just coin a name for this possible future product, anyway this rig SCOOTS, like RIGHT NOW. In its present experimental form it has two settings, Sport and Economy, in Sport mode this thing comes off the line strongly I dare say it will spank any hot rod Ural I have ever ridden to include my own. Top speed I don't know, haven't had the chance to take it there. IIRC, in its present stage of development Ilya, said that when in economy mode it has a range of around 100 miles. That is well within the needs of I would guess 95% of prospective customers would be happy with. As a daily commuter type rig, a grocery getter, take the dog for a ride rig this would fill the slot with ease.

    In its present state of development I was honestly very highly impressed, both Ilya, and Madina, were shocked that I actually liked this thing they are well aware of my past habit of ABUSING their product sometime to the detriment of the company bottom line. Yes, I know, its a horrible non job but someone has to do it. So Ilya, "Sunnyboy" when do I get to take this thing out and run the HELL out it?

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  7. GearHeadGrrrl

    GearHeadGrrrl Been here awhile

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    Another successful Ural PR "leak"...
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  8. rantingsmith

    rantingsmith Quadrilingual blacksmith seat of pants engineer

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  9. MarkC

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    Dave, there was no cat escaping from the bag, all we had was teh following:

    1. 8883 = IMZ-Urals MFG plate (google search of CT pics, brings up the pics of test Urals with 8883 plates)
    2. Windmill creates thread on Soviet Steeds: http://www.sovietsteeds.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=51012
    and writes:
    which indicates he likely has first hand knowledge of the picture.
    3. Windmill writes here on this thread:
    4. Perform a search on SovietSteeds of user windmill & fedex =
    All add up to: Windmill wrote he is a FedEx employee and has operated a prototype Ural for IMZ in the past, he wrote
    ...This all points to windmill as very likely being the driver who is testing a prototype for IMZ-Ural. But Windmill has not wrote anymore info about the IE Ural nor actually confirmed he was the driver.

    Regarding you Dave, there was no deduction from that photo, combined with windmills past postings, to indication that you knew anything about the IE Ural. However, the Uralist here thank you for leaking your driving review of the prototype IE.

    In a minute you may hear a few car doors slam, peering out the window you may see a black ZIL-117 with four dark figures emerging...Well just remember your training and trust your instincts. :lol3
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  10. windmill

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    For the record, it's not me in the photo. IMWA sometimes asks local long time Uralistas they know to assist in R&D evaluations, and coincidentally 2 of us happen to work for a company that employs over 400,000 people.

    As to it being a "leak". Although I've been aware of the rig in question for some time, I honored IMWAs request of confidentiality. My first knowledge of this thread was a couple of PMs from folks who assumed it was me and wanted to know more about it.
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  11. GearHeadGrrrl

    GearHeadGrrrl Been here awhile

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    Just kidding about the leaks. Some of the big automakers intentionally leak new vehicles- I spend the winter near the Fiat-Chrysler test facility in southwest Florida and other automakers test in the area too. If they want secrecy, they've got their own track and hundred of miles of lightly traveled roads available... But I regularly see poorly disguised at best upcoming models driven down 6 lane arterial streets and parked for lengthy lunches at Subway, etc.. One gets the impression they're angling for free publicity, like the FCA Pacifica plug in hybrid that was paraded around greater Naples with bright tape over the battery charging port and "do not charge" signs, months before the vehicle was officially introduced.
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  12. JustKip

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    Any idea when they'll be able to the public?

    Asking for a friend ; )
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  13. Strong Bad

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    Electric Ural.jpg

    Electric Ural 1.jpg

    Isn't the Interwebs kewl?
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  14. davide

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    The tank could become a cool storage space like in the Honda NC 700 X... The Gear up already has the access door. I have a good feeling about this, Go Ural!
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  15. JustKip

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    Meh...put an extra battery in mine
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  16. davet2

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    This is definitely a Ural I could see myself buying. 100 mile range would make it pretty good for me. I hope they decide to bring it to the market.
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  17. 3legs

    3legs Real men ride sidecars

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    Great idea but unfortunately wouldn't work here in Oz. Distances are too vast. It's not uncommon to go more than 200km (125 mile) between fuel stations (sometimes much further) which is where they would locate the recharging stations.

    Fine around town but no good out bush.

    Now if they could make an intergrated solar panel that puts out mega watts while you are riding that would be a game changer.

    Oh well back to my old filthy fossil fuel burning internal combustion polluter:lol3


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  18. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad Former World's Foremost Authority

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    One would think that with all of that room a sidecar provides you could put all of the battery power you would ever want somewhere on it! But you are right, a 100 mile range is not of much value. Shoot, yesterday I did 115 miles in 3 1/2 hours on my XR650L (that's averaging just under 33 mph). Batteries remain the main issue with all electric vehicles.

    This OOral still uses the same-o-bland-o rubber doughnut and final drive. While it does make the conversion much simpler, these items have been known...........................
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  19. rantingsmith

    rantingsmith Quadrilingual blacksmith seat of pants engineer

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    I'm sure good ol'Aussie resourcefulness could manage to stick half a Prius or other such hybrid into a hack, after all you guys seem to manage to cram just about everything else and the kitchen sink in there...


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  20. JustKip

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    They need to add a 250cc gas powered generator, or even small displacement hybrid
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