Speeding and parking tickets in Europe

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  1. KildareMan

    KildareMan Been here awhile

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    Not hearsay. True. Not only do the hire companies bill you on your credit card used to hire vehicle but they also slap on a hefty admin fee as well. All in the hire terms and conditions.
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  2. nickguzzi

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    I only had the info second hand, but it is useful for others to have it have it confirmed.


    Used to have friends in Naas, up the road towards the racktrack. Lawlors used to serve some of the best Guinness around - and the Gem had everything else.
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  3. Frank59

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    well, another proove that Merkel-country has always been much less innovative as it thinks it would be ;)

    > It sure pays handsomely, as the legislative ensures permanency of the system by dropping speed-limits continuously and randomly.

    same again. 30-50-30-50-70-30... kmph. Riding a "sports"bike under these conditions gets a totally new meaning: long distance arcrobatic balancing to avoid tipping over. Awake-training (like single-handed sailors pratice) to avoid spontaneous sleep and eventually crash into a speed trap pillar. Reflex training (subconscious nanosecond emergency-braking when eye-brain-neurons detect any object resembling a box, pillar, laser-gun, police-cap, ...). Extreme cardio training : 30kmph at 41 degrees in your leather suite makes you fit for your next pass through the Sahara in the middle of August. Anti-aggressional Zen meditation to suppress any desire to slam the car driver in front of you who believes the red circled "30" signs mean DANGEROUS SPEED and rides at a safe 20 kmph.

    ;)

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  4. KildareMan

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    Sallins Road. Lawlor's still does and the Gem is gone.
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    That's the one. Hill House, I think it was. Unfortunately as a couple they had problems and moved away.
    Glad Lawlors is up-holding the traditions - is it still Sean...
    The Gem was a bit of a oddity, shame to loose that connection. We have a few Everything Shops round here and I know a very special one near a mates villa in Italy.
    Last time I was there there were two big supermarkets, probably more now.

    Naas was a nice town, very convenient for nice rides. Over to Blessington and into the Wicklow mts and the Military road and the Gaps. Down to the Vale of Avoca then across to the coast. Or down to Kilkenny, on to Cashel and Cahir. Even a dash across to Galway, although the Midlands was never my favourite ride, nice destination along the coast there about.
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  6. babar69

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    FYI, as a French, I live in Hungary since 6 years. Each time I go back France, I'm totally PARANOID. This country had become totally obsessed by speed tickets. I agree with Deutsch/Austria/ Swiss . i wouldn't like to have to discuss with the road police ( especially the german one, don't even try, and keep VERY polite , I had some "contacts" with them) So , in Hungary, in towns, like Budapest, you can legally use the bus lane ( and the traffic lights dedicated to bus too). Very rare to have radars speed controls on back roads. mainly in village at entrance, just respect speed which can be boring as villages are long, long distances of aligned houses along the main street . They now have very big range laser binoculars. You will see it in town, suburban too. Since 2004, new rich people SUV and generation of smartphone texting and chatting have became nightmare. They don't even care no more to stop for pedestrians. Not so many bikes, except for warm season. You have some "gantry" on highways used to video track you for : county highway paid toll as "matricia", and speed control. You can pay for a 10 days for motorbike. I'm used to do Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia. Never had a pb, just respect towns and villages speed ( and better to do it for children safety !!!) . On roads, going fast is suicide, with horses suddenly crossing, cows sleeping on middle tarmac, and road engines just parked on the road in a blind turn... Turkey : stupid law : 80 km/h for motorbikes on highway. Was stopped sometimes, but no pb when they just go around the bike and see your foreign plate. Highways and bridges have pass-tolls : Going into country, You put the sticker bought in gas stations on front of the bike... Just plan around 15 /20 euros to ride around Istanbul, bridges , external highways ... You can recharge it in fuel stations or by phone.
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  7. DavidM1

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    I agree (and it used to be 70!). I've had 3 speeding tickets in Turkey over the years - I'm better at spotting the signs nowadays. But 80km/h is OK on a rental CRF250L.
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  8. Andsetinn

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    It seems to me that speeding enforcement has no relation to safety anymore. It is only there to generate revenue. How else can you explain speed cameras and strict speed enforcement on highways, where there is no pedestrian traffic around, but no speed enforcement near schools where kids are playing?
    Netherlands is going too far with one camera generating over 6 million Euros in "income" last year and 69 thousand motorists fined for driving 1 km/h over the speed limit on roads with 130 km/h limit. The fine limit is 4 km/h on most other roads.
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  9. PaulTim2000

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    In the Republic of Ireland the police have got very cute dealing with foreign registered vehicles who are abusing road traffic laws, especially round Dublin. They will charge you and take you before the magistrate (even evenings and weekends) who will ask you to post bail, the amount of which is equal to the probable fine, don't bother to turn up to court and the bail pays the fine (don't ask how I know :lol3)
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  10. Tod.

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    So, having been flashed a couple of times coming back through France in my UK registered car earlier this month, will I be getting a fine through the post now that I`m back in the UK? Does the British government have an agreement with France to divulge the details of vehicle ownership?
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  12. Tod.

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    Cheers for that Robxxx. The daily flail publishes so much shite that I don't know what to believe. And after the brexit vote to leave the EU, can the UK government still introduce new laws dictated by the EU?
    I'll see what turns up in the post.
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  13. nickguzzi

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    I think HMG did sign up to the pan-euro fines thing, they may even have been a promoter, as there are no on the spot fines here.
    I have heard of parking fines from Italy - processed by a modern day bounty hunter.
    Like you, I have been flashed in Italy, Germany and France several times in the last 5 years or so, yet to hear anything.

    There is the usual little englander nonsense about tourists "evading" the dartcharge, but when you go through, there are only wordy signs - and despite the anglophone assumption that everyone else speaks English - well they don't. Sure a decent %age can speak some, but reading is different.
    Makes a change from all the decades when tourists were dropping handfuls of cash into the hoppers/on to the ground - on a bike you could see how much money there was.
    I dropped my stowed coin once and - much to everyone else's annoyance, I had to dismount to get it, made a decent profit from that little stop.
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  14. Gone Troppo

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    Hahah! Italy is a great place to ride, as they expect you to ride like an idiot. We followed some locals up the double white centre line on the way to Stelvio...no worries! :thumb

    OK on the fake speed camera boxes in the Alps...now I understand why that Ferrari overtook me into a 50 km/hr zone in the Dolomites with a prominent "speed camera"...! :lol3:lol3

    Oh yes, Austria and Switz...stick to the limits on the highways! The alps, not so much.

    And, yes, get a US plate!
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  15. MichaelJ

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    That's the motorcycle lane. The other two are for cars.
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    Indeed! :1drink
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  17. arnoldus

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    The Tomtom Speed camera apps works very well in warning you for speed cams or live traps (tiny overlay on your screen or other app you use), except in France where mapping speed cams isn't legal.
    Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tomtom.speedcams.android.map

    Also, according to European law, you need to get charged in a language you know, or with an interpreter. So, if you get a ticket in the mail, you can send them a letter back saying you don't understand anything of what it is about.
    Most likely they'll drop the ticket, rather than finding someone who can translate it into a language you know.
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  18. Horton

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    The French and the Netherlandians send you your ticket in your language.

    I was wundering in the UK. When I ask the hotel people, if I can park my bike on the pavement, a big wide one. They never are able to answer that question. . .
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  19. nickguzzi

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    The answer should be no. In England and Wales, obstructing (which would be parking on it at all) the pavement/sidewalk/footpath is an offence. While you may get away with it as there are very few police who could be bothered, you may be the one.

    The width is irrelevant, if the pavement is part of the highway, then it is an offence. Similarly, while common in many places to park a car with the inside wheels on the pavement, this is also an offence in England and Wales - unless altered by local by-law. In which case there will be notices.

    Sometimes, but often undefined, a property includes a section of what is commonly used as a pavement. In which case, parking would be no problem, with permission of course.
    I would think the hotel would know if the pavement outside is part of their property.
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  20. Enduro Hooligan

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    Heh, I get away with all sorts in my little corner of England. Once you are on the police radar though, you're kinda screwed in this day and age. Everything has such a high level of spitefulness built into to it, probably more relaxed in the US.
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