Spine protectors

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by kruzuki, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. kruzuki

    kruzuki Gear in the Machine

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    Does anyone wear one?

    As I get older, I'm a little more cautious when riding.

    Not so much speed-wise but more in regard to personal protection, in case my speed or some idiot driver requires it.
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  2. Dunkel

    Dunkel Adventurer

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  3. Woland

    Woland Wannabe adventurer

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    I use one, not only is it cheap insurance, it also helps with my posture and spares my back.
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  4. Don T

    Don T Bike Addict

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    I never ride offroad without my Alpinestars Bionic - I believe it has saved me from serious injury countless times :
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    NB. I work as a paramedic and have often seen the difference between riders who wear good protection and those who don't :cry
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  5. henrymartin

    henrymartin Mr. Tourguide

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    I've been using a roost guard off road, plus the spine pad that is part of a jacket, but I just ordered a 661 pressure suit, and am looking to buy Alpinestars Track Protection Vest for the street rides.

    Same here, the older I get, the more stuff I wear:deal
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  6. viajero

    viajero Too old to be a nOOb

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    I didn't until a few years ago, and now use one on every ride. Most jackets have crap standard back protection, or none at all (aerostich).

    Mine is a re-labeled Forcefield sold under the Joe Rocket name, purchased for a reasonable price from newenough.com.
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  7. JR356

    JR356 Long timer

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  8. vink

    vink Adventurer

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    I am looking for some of the same.
    I started wearing Knox compression shorts, (padded shorts). they give some piece of mind. I'm on the lookout for more padded gear etc.
    I like that Alpinestars moto chest protector. It's on my list.

    I also worked for a time as a medic and found that there is no way to prevent or be protected from all the potential hazards but the protective gear stacks the odds in our favor.

    Something I heard on one of the Faster videos was, a good spine protector should have flexibility forward and not backward. To prevent you from being bent backwards in a getoff.
    Sounds logical.
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  9. Ape76

    Ape76 NB

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    Yes these are a good idea and can be found relatively "cheap" online. I use a Bohn strap on which has a slimmer fit and works well under my riding jackets on the street. The Forcefield is really nice as well but a bit pricier...
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  10. RevChris

    RevChris Merchant of Chaos

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    Heh. "Bohn strap on."

    Anyways... I have a Knox Ricochet that's a couple of years old and should probably be upgraded to the more comfortable/protective Forcefield model. Webbike has a good review of the latter here:
    http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/back-protector/forcefield-pro-sub-4/

    Honestly, I think the type of injuries prevented by these things are fairly rare, but my father's in a wheelchair from a spinal injury, so I probably worry about it more than most people.

    Also, all of your friends and possibly your wife will punch you in the back. No point getting mad. They can't help it.
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  11. high dangler

    high dangler Been here awhile

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    i wore a fairly cheap ufo back protector when i was doing track days . . Not much discomfort . I felt better with it on . It was veribrae type ,didnt hinder movement at all.
    The last i checked there was no ratings for this type equipment .
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  12. RevChris

    RevChris Merchant of Chaos

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    We don't have standards for them in this country, but they go by the European system like CE armor. Back protectors go by EN 1621-2:2003, and there are a few levels of rating. They drop some kind of thingamajig on the back protector. Level 1 transmits 18 kN of force to the wearer's back, Level 2 transmits 9 kN. My Knox Ricochet is labeled level 1. The Forcefield Pro Sub 4 claims less than 4 kN.

    I don't wear mine to commute, or go to the store, but any kind of pleasure riding, I'll strap it on (HAR!). It blocks the rear vents in my jacket, so it can be a little uncomfortable, but I don't notice it after awhile.

    Edit: here's a study on spine injuries in motorcycle accidents:
    https://secure.muhealth.org/~ed/students/articles/JTrauma_53_p0005.pdf

    Something that occurs to me-- they test back protectors for impact, but the most common injury is hyperflexion, so they may not be that useful. My back protector bends forward more easily than backward, but I'm not convinced it would prevent me from bending backward in a crash. If anyone knows more, I'd love to hear it.
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  13. AlanCT

    AlanCT The Byronic Man

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    I have a cheap Technic one that I mounted to the inside of my jacket with velcro. It has a waist belt as well.
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  14. Trialsguy

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    I wear a Knox on my road bike and an Alpinestars Bionic off road. I find both very comfy and a nice piece of mind.

    Two years ago I went for a complete physical , not because of any problems, but mainly because I had just turned 50, and wanted a baseline I could gauge against in later years. Part of that exam included a full chest and back Xray. When I went back for the results later , the Dr said to me ..."So, no issues at all, but the radiologist and I were just curious how and when you broke your back ? We can tell it's an old injury that healed, but how did it happen ?" :eek1 What !!!??????

    I had to rack my memory cells, but finally figured it out .... that was about 20 yrs ago !

    He then asked what had been done for it. I said I thought (at the time) I had either just cracked or dislocated a couple ribs, and the only thing I did was lay flat on the floor and hang on to furniture legs when I felt a sneeze coming on.
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  15. trc.rhubarb

    trc.rhubarb ZoomSplat!

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  16. Apaluq

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    Doing some research on protective gear. This article here http://www.defense.gov/home/pdf/0412_militaryrider/DYK_USMC2.pdf states:

    For spinal injuries, foam back inserts actually correlated to an increase in risk of a soft tissue injury to the spine or back. This finding suggests that more study on the design of body armor for the back and spine is needed.

    Check the percentages in the table there. Any insight?
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  17. BobPS

    BobPS Been here awhile

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    Yes, every time I ride. It's either Forcefield pro back insert in my jackets when I commute or Forcefield strap-on back protector that I wear on long ride / weekend ride.

    I wear it mainly to protect me from impact or hit from behind. I had a really close call when an idiot on a bike almost hit me. His hand clipped my elbow, he lost control of his bike and crash right there in front of me. Had it been some 10 cm more to the right, his handlebar would've hit me and I would have bruised or broken ribs.
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  18. fiep

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    I had one of the forcefield rubber floor mats for a while
    did not like it
    the 'waist adjustment' aka kidney belt drove me nuts
    the darn thing kept creeping up,
    even after I switched to their female cut

    now I have a Spidi Defender
    http://www.spidi.com/eu/eu_en/motorcycle-protective-gear/armor-160-170.html
    which I love since I cut off the kidney belt,
    it stays in place just fine without
    I normally wear it under my Stich or HG jacket with the sleeves zipped off
    rather than removing shouder + elbow armor from the jackets
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  19. Spina

    Spina wannabe motorcyclist

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    At the moment, the best back protector in terms of force trasmitted, is the forcefield pro sub 4 ( or the kevlar version, if you want to spend some more, I think the difference would be in terms of comfort, but I'm not sure )
    http://www.forcefieldbodyarmour.com/product/pro-sub-4-back-protector/2339
    http://www.forcefieldbodyarmour.com/product/pro-l2k-back-protector/2382
    I use the halvarssons back protector inside of the safety jacket, the protector is made by forcefield.
    I've noticed the lack of airflow in the protector zone, but I thinks it's pretty normal, unfortunately :\
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  20. Zoodles95

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    I wear a back protector; one of the Icon Stryker ones like this:
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    Actually, I have become such a fan/proponent of this type of thing that I ended up going with the entire series:
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    I have the armoured shorts coming too:
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    I see this stuff as my "base layer". No matter the pants and jacket I wear I have a good base of armour to help me with impact and some abrasion protection.
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