Sport bikes losing ground to Dual Sport

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Aussijussi, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. Aussijussi

    Aussijussi Long timer

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    At least that's the case here in Finland. The 600 Sport Bike sales have nearly stopped and the 1000 cc bikes are not doing much better, this has been the trend here for the past couple of years. The touring and dual sport bikes as well as the cruisers, are selling, but nowhere near the numbers that hit the roads few years back. The dealers reckon it's partly due to the sluggish economy, but they are also saying that motorcycling is not seen as 'glamorous' as it once was. Maybe the folks are too busy playing with their smart phones, instead of going for a bit of a burn.
    What is scene in U.S and in other parts of the globe?
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  2. JustKip

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    We're old now, and need an upright riding position.
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  3. Aussijussi

    Aussijussi Long timer

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    And that's a fact:D
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  4. cbolling

    cbolling Here...Hold my Beer.

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    Seems to be the case just about everywhere.
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  5. Katoom72

    Katoom72 Been here awhile

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    Traffic laws are a PITA for sporty riding, that and terrible road maintance made me go dualsport riding. I don't have issue with the potholes and if i want to twist the throttle i go offroad. :D
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  6. GR0NK

    GR0NK Got some screws loose!

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    Insurance rates have a part to play.


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  7. Klay

    Klay dreaming adventurer

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    I think it's just a reflection of the fact that the public streets and trails do not resemble the race track, and it's finally dawning on the greater public to select machines that are more suitable for the former.
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  8. Robert^

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    Yep, a dualsport w sticky tires is awesome in the city. I call it adventure riding and it comes complete with wet railroad tracks, wet bridge grates, wet manhole covers, potholes, pedestrians, and Prius drivers.

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  9. Snapper

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    I think motorcycle performance has advanced so far beyond what mere mortals can do with it that it's starting to make sport bikes kinda moot - might was well be more comfortable and practical. Anyways, it more fun riding a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow.
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  10. HooliKen

    HooliKen Awesome is a flavor

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    Owned a few Supersports, could never "legally" approach what their capabillities on the street, or I would go out for a ride and end up doing at least one jackass move, ala 100mph wheelies on the R1.

    Not saying that I ride my KTM or Buell to their max abilities offroad but, no traffic and yet to get a speeding ticket.........and getting dirty is so much more fun.


    But make no mistake......the cruiser crowd is alive and well in the states.
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  11. Aj Mick

    Aj Mick Been here awhile

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    I don't really like the term "dual-sport" as sport is not really what these practical, multi purpose machines are all about. Maybe more people are realising that super-sports, cruisers or whatever are more about chasing dreams. There is more to life than looking cool on the tar-mac.
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  12. Aussijussi

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    We call them ' touring or tour enduro' here, perhaps a more apt name for a versatile motorcycle that they are. As you said, these 'tour enduro's might not look so cool, some down right ugly, like the 990 adv, that i ride, but to me at least, it doesn't matter what it looks like, as long as it does the job.
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  13. Big Lee

    Big Lee Been here awhile

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    Adventure bikes in the UK, and imo they`re more fun more of the time than a sports bike. Gone are the days of trying to find a road thats suitable to stretch the legs of a big sports bike when you can be tonking down a bumpy backroad with the odd little wheelie off crests with a smile on your face instead :D:D:D
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  14. Unstable Rider

    Unstable Rider Moto Fotografist

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    I final assemble new bikes of various brands at a dealer, from crate to sending the customer down the road with his or her new purchase. I have grown to dislike the cruisers and crotch rockets, they don't push or roll around as easy or turn as sharp when moving them in shop. Typically quite heavy and awkward and like someone else said, as an old dude I have to have the upright riding posistion.

    In the coming warmer months, the boss let's us take pretty much any bike we want for as long as we want (weeks), until someone wants to buy the "demo" you might be riding. For me, I am looking forward to trying one of the newish Husqvarna single cylinders of different sizes and config's.

    It's more about doing more with less, and like someone else indicated, insurance more affordable with less cc's.

    If it's a (adventure) trend, I like it.

    Some of it is about education and exposure. Have had Harley types stop in the side of the shop I work in and look over a customer's dirty, used but well equipped adventure bike. When the features are explained to them, and what the bike is intended for, the lower cost, the fun, the JB Weld instead of chrome polish, it slowly starts to sink in with them. It's fun to see the transformation from "uhh, whut?" to..... "ahhhh, now I gets it" :evil.
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  15. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Likely Lost.

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    My insurance us $380 a year full coverage on my Daytona 675, I think its like 65 for the Speed Triple lol
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  16. NJ-Brett

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    Around here (New Jersey) Harleys rule, and 99% of those are the big Harley's. Almost none are close to stock.
    Hardly any dual sports, mostly euro brand race bikes in the woods, some sport bikes for the young guys.

    Its got to be 85% Harleys, with small amounts of all the others in the mix.
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  17. Moronic

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    My take also.

    One other aspect: sport bikes are based on race bikes, even to sharing race-bike capacity restrictions.

    That means screwing more and more horsepower out of 600s and 1000s.

    The adventure bike market doesn't give a damn about race capacity limits. So you get bigger motors with more grunt and charm. And these days, enough power.

    Nicer engines to use on the road.
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  18. rgoers

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    I attribute it to the fact that vehicles are HUGE now, as opposed to 10 years ago. Getting hit no longer means getting injured, but killed instead. Couple that with the idiots who would rather text or watch youtube while driving, and you have a downright hostile environment for motorcycles on public highways. I would rather take my chances off-road on a dual sport, than at the hands of distracted drivers.

    Besides all that - dual sports are just plain fun to ride!!!
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  19. Aussijussi

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    On our perma frost made lumpy roads, sport bikes with their short suspension and smaller wheels, are really out of their element, they have to take the road conditions into consideration, while planning a trip. The 990 adv, with it's 21¨ hoop in the front + nearly twice the suspension travel of the sport bike, will ride over potholes and craters on the road, especially like now, in the spring. Fast too, a bloke riding the new 1190, was hitting 270 km/h, 168mp/h, that's moving for a trail bike!
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  20. feldjäger

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    A bike is a bike, if you're riding that's good thing no matter what your rig is! :D
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