Sport bikes losing ground to Dual Sport

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Aussijussi, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. BanjoBoy

    BanjoBoy Been here awhile

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    Ya know, this thread iz worthless without pics...

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  2. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Likely Lost.

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    I've actually been there. I stopped riding liter bikes for that reason really. The GSX-1000R in particular can basically double most speed limits in first gear, its like trying to put brakes on a missile riding it on the road.

    My Speed Triple seems to be in a pretty sweet spot, mine is geared all to high hell, it rides like a really big motard front end is always loose and it leaps off of corners.

    It depends on what your idea of waste is I guess. If we were worried about what you "need" to commute, every one would be on 250s and 500s.
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  3. klaviator

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    I rode sport bikes for years then switched to Dual Sport. So did many of my sport bike riding friends. There used to be many great paved roads with not too much traffic and little LEO presence that could be ridden at a good pace on a sport bike without much fear of a ticket. Then those roads started become way too popular and traffic and LEO presence increased.

    With a dual sport I have been able to not only enjoy riding off the pavement but I also discovered that on tight twisty paved roads, a dual sport is just as fun and nearly as fast as a sport bike. I have also discovered a large number of paved roads that the sport bikes, and LEO's ignore. Many of these roads are a few miles of great twisty pavement, then some poor pavement then gravel, then eventually more pavement. Most street bikes ignore these road because they don't want to ride the gravel.

    There are many twisty roads that have really crappy pavement. Fun on a dual sport. Not so much on a sport bike.

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  4. Aussijussi

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    Instead of calling them 'dual sport' more apt name could be 'real world' motorcycle. We call them 'tour enduro' here, which is not that hot either. Maybe ADV RIDER could print out sticker's with DEFTM on them, short for *Do Every Fucking Thing Moto*:D:D
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  5. Aussijussi

    Aussijussi Long timer

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    On second thought, if we add few more letters to that compo, even the Harley riders might join us:D
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  6. klaviator

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    Some of them already have:

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  7. FotoTEX

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    In my case it was a natural progression form a Sport Bike to a Dual Sport Bike. I find the GS to be more than capable in ALOT more places and roads than the Sport Bike ever did. You can only go so fast but you can always explore more of the off the beaten path on a Dual Sport.

    Getting away from the crowds is a great feeling and safer to me. Finding un-explored area's and roads less traveled is enough reason for me.
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  8. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    With me, the natural progression led me to get rid of that overweight POS GS and get some REAL dual sports. I progress fast, only had the GS for a year. :lol3 Of course, it kind of came full circle when I picked up a Gixxer 600 a few months ago. :D
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  9. Aj Mick

    Aj Mick Been here awhile

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    Dunno, but you could be compensating for shortcomings in the prowess or physical department.
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  10. gto3

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    ^^^ nah ,,
    more hp = more fun :deal :1drink
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  11. Wobbleside

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    I went from a Monster to a first gen Multistrada.. next week I'm testing riding a Hyperstrada and Multistrada for my first new vehicle purchase. I have no desire to ride a sport bike every day, I don't own a car and with the way the roads are falling apart around here something with decent suspension (and good travel) with sticky 17" tires makes me very happy. I actually wish there was something in a similar package to the MTS 1200 that traded about 50ish hp for 60-70lbs of weight but kept at least the same torque as my current Multistrada. I don't need or really want a 150hp but everything else that comes with it on the new Multistrada well.. I want it bad.
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  12. SteelJM1

    SteelJM1 Undercover KTM rider

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    I'll never sell my SV1k, but I'm riding it less as I get older. Not that I'm very old to begin with but as everyone's said, it's just not as fun (legally) as it can be on the street. And it's ergo's and engine characteristics are not nearly as bad as the hyperbikes. Got my DR650 last year and had a blast with friends doing some 8hour+ motorcycle camping. Then I went crazy and got a dirt-sportbike, a 300 2t. That thing is a monster and wants to kill me whenever I ride it offroad, but at least when I'm dead i can only blame myself and not some sorostitute texting in her navigator.

    And for some strange reason, I have a lot more confidence tearing up corners on the DR (with knobblies) and the TE300 than I ever have on the SV
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  13. klaviator

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    Most knobbies have more traction on the pavement than most people would expect. My dual sport bikes all run out of ground clearance before the tires run out of traction on the street.
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  14. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades...

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    Sorry, when I'm on my dual sport I don't really want to stop to take pictures.

    the really fun part about a dual sport is that you can do crazy shit that would get you tossed in jail if you did them on normal roads.

    Where else can you broad slide around a corner without concern for cops and cars? Where else could you pull the front end without the same? There's just no one out there looking for you, so it's way more fun and speeds seldom get over 60 mph.

    Heck, even the pavement is usually fairly open without traffic since it's usually some county or township road.
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