Sport Tourers; Where Art Thou?

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Rider, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. DannyZRC

    DannyZRC Been here awhile

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    Low CG feels light when stopped since you're pivoting around the contact patch and the CG moves laterally, but High CG feels light when moving since you're pivoting around the CG and the contact patch moves laterally (and provides the roll forces, hence the longer moment arm of a high CG translating to lighter feel).

    2 bikes with the same mass and CG location can still be differentiated by different moments of inertia about various axes, and the spinning crank can change the moment about the two axes around which it doesn't spin and this influence changes with RPM, as does the influence of the spinning wheels and theblahblahblahblahblah.

    Sitting on doesn't give the same info as riding, and riding in one set of conditions doesn't give the same info as riding in another, and you get used to some things and not to others, and pretty soon the only way to really get to know a bike is to buy it and really get to know it.

    :deal
  2. Motard_Menace

    Motard_Menace Been here awhile

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    You know the best part of this wet weight debate is that only 20 years ago everything just about was heavier then what we can buy now. Only a very few riders can even tap into 50% of a motorcycles ability.......we truly live in good times when it comes to motorcycle selection........:clap
  3. Sniff

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    +1 on this... I know I spend too much time whining about whether 118 hp is 'enough' and not enough enjoying the fabulously reliable, great handling bike that it is...
  4. BanjoBoy

    BanjoBoy Been here awhile

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    Ride'in on the street, mor weight is better; to a point. I never thought I'd own a 600 lb bike, 'til I dun got me this 660 lb. FJR and am luv'in it. :raabia (Just like a big girl, thar's mor ta luv! :rogue )
    It's so versatile, solid, stable, and planted at sane street speeds.

    + 1,000,000 The reliability! :happay
    Just pick a fucking bike 'n ride the thang already. :fyyff
  5. Rider

    Rider Moderator Emeritus Super Moderator

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    Amen! :pope
  6. DiabloADV

    DiabloADV Semi-Occasional

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    +1. This...:clap

    Race bikes *could* be designed with lower CG, but they aren't because the higher CG makes the bike quicker to lean over and turn. High CG = light at the "bottom" of the bike, and the bottom of the bike needs to scoot left and right quickly in order to lean and turn quickly.
  7. DFH

    DFH 270 deg crank

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    Well said... the one key point missing is that no matter how well balanced or set-up a heavier than necessary bike is it will never claw back the dynamic advantages a lighter bike starts with.
  8. DannyZRC

    DannyZRC Been here awhile

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    that's a bit opposite of what I said, but that's not to say lightness doesn't have a rightness all it's own.
  9. scrannel

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    A Sport Touring bike should be just heavy enough to not be a sport bike, and just light enough to not be a Harley. (It is what it isn't).
  10. motocopter

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  11. CaribooBC

    CaribooBC life is an adventure

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    My wife and I have been touring on our matching Duc 900 SS's. up to 800 km days. With a Corbin seat and Cycle Cat adjustable bars mine is ok, but I just bought a R1100S. I am hoping that this will be still sporty enough for me. We are keeping our 900's in our collection so if I want to go for a sporty rip I'll still be able to. The R1100 has hard bags and a more upright seating position so I am hoping that it will be all day, 7 days a week comfortable. Does any one here have experience putting serious distance on a R1100S?
  12. rotten

    rotten LOST AGAIN

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    I was also intrested in the R1100s I started a thread that recieved some good info...
    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=827317
  13. rotten

    rotten LOST AGAIN

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  14. motocopter

    motocopter new place explorer

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    This thread needs a bump to the top! :D

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  15. Contevita

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  16. motocopter

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  17. hankgs

    hankgs Long timer

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    I have the same model as the poster... it was not very accurate, even after I sent it back to the manufacturer. I hear better results from riders who have been using the Valentine series.
  18. AKjitsu

    AKjitsu Been here awhile

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    Must be a regional thing. When we go out on the back roads around here, every time we stop we&#8217;re butthole deep in RT&#8217;s, K bikes, ST&#8217;s, FJR&#8217;s, Connies, etc.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
  19. Crow

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    I have the same one, and mine works very well.
  20. Mr. Magoo

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    Still loving my K1600GT here .... what a machine! :freaky