Sport touring input - CBR1100xx, VFR, FZ1, etc

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by KNanthrup, Jul 31, 2014.

  1. Slowphil

    Slowphil Big Man in a very very small pond

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    I realize I`m late coming to this discussion but here`s my opinion. Buy the Blackbird, I had an 03 loved it and sold it and bought a valkyrie because someone wanted to ride with me but then never did. Now have a 98 carb blackbird, not sure which one I prefer to tell the truth. I`m 67 yrs old have arthritis in both shoulders but with some minor modifications (vfr bars, etc) the bike fits me almost perfectly (inseam 28`), I can sit in the saddle for 12 - 13 hrs a day and be comfortable, mileage is between 35 and 40 mpg depending on how I run. The bike is as comfortable sitting at 100mph as at 60, your choice:clap! I test rode a vfr and to tell the truth the vtec just absolutely ruined any enjoyment of the ride.
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  2. dustin2

    dustin2 VFR800

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    I'm curious about why
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  3. superspeed123

    superspeed123 Been here awhile

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    Blackbird are hands down in best in term of power and engine smoothness. Used to own one and still misses it. If you intend to travel long journey with power to spare and excit you evertime you twist the throttle, get a BB.
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  4. Jim K.

    Jim K. Long timer

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    Reading your initial post, it sounds like you have a pretty good handle on all 3 bikes, & a good idea of what you want. In your place I'd go with the VFR. The gear driven cams are cool, but practically speaking, it's just Honda showing off (they do that a lot with the Interceptor). The v-tec issue has 2 sides (Admission:I've only owned the non-v-tec). I know almost as many folks who love the hit when it kicks in, as hate the lunge. I also like the look of the 6 th gen. I have a feeling you're going to have a great time whatever you decide.
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  5. curtis6870

    curtis6870 Long timer

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    Vfr
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  6. ctfz1

    ctfz1 been there

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    Buying used at around $3500 I would go with the bike in the best condition. As close to stock motor as possible with aftermarket saddle, springs, suspension.
    Essentially each would be fun to own, you won't lose much value commuting, and each best fits a different profile.
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  7. SUVslayer

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    Of the 3, I've only ridden the 6th gen VFR. Overall, my opinion is it's a great real-world bike: well built, very composed over all sorts of road conditions, good stock suspension, linked brakes reduce dive and provide a lot of confidence, and all day comfy. The bike handles very well with plenty of feedback. Plus, the factory bags look good and hold a lot (tho I can't quite squeeze my helmet in). Plus, well cared for examples can be had for pretty cheap with low milage (it's a bike older, more maintenance minded folks tend to buy). It does not have that neck snapping torque of sport bikes, and as such can feel... slow. You need to be above 6700rpm to have any real power, so around town it can feel heavy and uninspired. On the open road, however, it is deceptively fast.
    My only complaint really is the VTEC - I hate the low down lack of torque, and the kick mid band can take some getting used to, esp in twisties. But it's a solid bike with good reliability ratings.
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  8. Prototype4342

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  9. LudemJo

    LudemJo Iron Butt Dreamer

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    I wonder what the OP did in December of 2014...nearly 13 months ago...

    John
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  10. Bugchewer

    Bugchewer Piece of Work

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    I am going suggest the Tiger 1050. That was a great bike and I regret parting with it. I have a Bandit S 1200 now and it is a great bike but a bit heavy and gas hungry. The Sprint above is a great choice too. You can find great deals on these bikes now. The Tiger handles the twisties with ease and with the hard luggage it held enough but not as much as the Sprint due to the exhaust can cutting in to the left side pannier space.
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  11. DayTrippin

    DayTrippin Adventurer

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    I like a lot of the bikes mentioned in the original old post. I was faced with the same dilemma a few months ago. I thought about maybe getting another ADV bike and was looking at the FJ09 for a medium distance commuter bike (my commute is about 500-700 miles one-way on the weekend).

    While at the dealer I stumbled across a 2014 Ninja 1000 ABS at a pretty incredible price. I did some research on other forums and ended up picking it up. I got the factory bags for it and the mounting system is great. They can hold a full face modular helmet nicely. They are huge though, about 28l.

    All in all the bike has been excellent so far. Very solid power no matter what the RPM is. A few issues I was easily able to address. Bang for the buck is phenomenal. The bike is good sport tourer and definitely sport enough on the back roads once you get rid of the stock tires. If you like wheelies, you can have a lot of fun in the first 2 gears but not such a crazy wheelie machine like the FZ09. Traction control works well and the rain mode for the power is nice when it is slick.

    Is it the best bike I've ever owned, no. It is a very good option for someone wanting a fun sport tourer. More thrust than the VFR which I found too slow and heavy. I didn't want to drop 20k on a Mulitstrada or BMW. I already have a K1600GT . I prefer it for long trips but the Ninja is definitely more nimble. I couldn't see putting a ton of miles on the K16 for must commuting. I've put 5,000 miles on it in just over 6 weeks and would be at 7,000 now if it hadn't been raining so heavily all the time. It really is a great value and a lot of aftermarket support if you really want to tailor it to your own needs. It is one of the few bikes I've owned that I'd buy another one again tomorrow if something happened to this one.
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  12. Schmittenhymer

    Schmittenhymer Adventure Tourer

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    "I have owned a 1st generation FZ1 and currently ride a 6th generation VFR. Some thoughts:
    On paper, the FZ1 is fantastic but I never really got comfortable with it. I found it big and clumsy in a certain way and I never fell in love with the chassis. I didn't enjoy the handling nor the ergonomics.

    The motor was incredible and extremely well sorted for a carbureted motor. Very smooth, always started, never had issues. The engine would pull from 6th gear at any speed and pull hard. It was easily capable of 50 MPG despite the 140 hp.

    The VFR, on the other hand, is a special bike. It's a joy to ride and hides its 540 lbs very well. The fit & finish are incredible and despite the sportier ergonomics, it's comfortable for 600+ mile days. The chassis is excellent and very well sorted for a stock bike. Handling is really very good and it's very stable & confidence inspiring."

    Same for me. But, I found the VFR had much better bottom-end torque then the FZ1. I even put a smaller countershaft sprocket it.
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  13. Drop_Center

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    Blackbird all the way, with convertibars and minor suspension work it's a substantially better than the VFR and FZ1 combined.
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  14. Schmittenhymer

    Schmittenhymer Adventure Tourer

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    "Blackbird all the way, with convertibars and minor suspension work it's a substantially better than the VFR and FZ1 combined."

    How is the XX for 2-up touring? Gotta keep the wife comfi.
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  15. EastBoundAndDown

    EastBoundAndDown Ron - 300XC-W DR650 FZ1

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    None of those 3 are 2up touring bikes. My wife tolerates 200mi days on my FZ1, but she is 25 and we only ride 4-5 days a year.
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  16. EastBoundAndDown

    EastBoundAndDown Ron - 300XC-W DR650 FZ1

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    I love my FZ1, but if I get bored of her, a Tiger 1050 may call my name. We shall see.
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  17. Drop_Center

    Drop_Center Long timer

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    No different than any other 1100cc sportbike. Fine for an hour, miserable for more than that without a back rest and grab-handles.
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  18. Volfy

    Volfy Fava beans & a nice Chianti

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    Now 3 years later... I too wonder.
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  19. scottzilla

    scottzilla Been here awhile

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    This thread reads like something out of 2004, not 2014.
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  20. Gryphon12

    Gryphon12 Long timer

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    Because there aren't many newer true Sports-touring motorcycles, and these bikes are just that good - VRF, XX, ST3/4s...
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