SR-71 ........ What A Ride !

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by TREE, Apr 17, 2008.

  1. McNeal

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    The F104 may not have had a long service life with the USAF (1958-1969), but it was it service with other countries until 2004 which seems like a good run. Also, the U2 spy plane is based on the F104.
  2. chazbird

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    Concorde, a engineering marvel, was perhaps the most heavily subsidized government civil program in history. Everyone knew it wasn't going to be economically feasible. The Boeing SST had far less in subsidies going for it, which might be one of the reasons for canceling it. But mostly there was not sufficient interest and orders coupled with the land based overflight sonic boom issues.

    RE: F104. Good point about others flying the 104 for a long time, I think Italy was the last to retire them. Still, not that useful a plane, mostly an interceptor that beyond visual range missiles killed off. It did fly in the 1971 Pakistan -India war, and was used briefly in Vietnam, for reasons no one could understand. Maybe it was some sort of way for a 104 wing to get combat medals.
  3. TooFast

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    Apparently the SR-71 goes from flying to falling without style without any recognizable 'stall' condition in-between...[/QUOTE]


    Makes me wonder what happened when they descended into icing conditions to land ...low on fuel.....not many options.

    I was flying a C172 cross country many years ago when the weather turned and started building ice on the wing's leading edge, felt lucky to get on the ground after it started handling like a 1950 Dodge station wagon...made flat wide turns coming in:deal
  4. Mercury264

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    I believe that's called sour grapes :lol3
  5. chazbird

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    Nah, no sour grapes, I don't think I could have ever afforded a ticket on either one of them. I don't have xenophobic tendencies about where a (good) airplane (or anything else) comes from.
  6. dwayne

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    The f-117 had been retired since 2008.
  8. johnno950

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    Fantastic thread,stories told by the pilots are brilliant.
  9. XR650L_Dave

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    Maybe they land while it's still too hot to ice!
  10. ragtoplvr

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    All mission profiles were carefully charted, they even looked for air over the target dry enough so there would be no con-trails. I suspect entering icing conditions was very rare. And they had tankers. I suspect it would take very little ice to cause issues.

    Rod
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    I was an air traffic controller stationed at Kadena AB, Okinawa, Japan from late 1980 to early 1982. I've seen the "Habu" take-off and land countless times. As others have said, it was a beautiful thing to see take off, especially at night.

    We never officially knew when she would fly, until about 45 minutes before take-off, when the SRSOF ( SR Supervisor of Flying) would come up to the tower. Though, we did know hours ahead of time (un-officially) when we would look to Habu Hill just off base. There was a small hill that had some small trees on it, that had an opening between the trees where a crowd would gather. They were mainly locals, and most had slr cameras with huge lenses. Not sure how they knew when the SR would take off, but they were never wrong.

    The SOF would take a seat right behind Flight Data, who sat between Ground and Local control. We would make contact with the SR pilot about 15 minutes before take-off, giving him taxiing instructions. At this time we would also contact Radar (approach/departure control) notifying them that the Airport Traffic Area is closed. That would literally close the airport to all arrivals and departures except for the Habu. When she reached up to the runway, we would give her take-off clearance and departure instructions. She then would taxi into position and hold. A minute or so later the afterburner would come on. While that was happening, the SOF would be doing a NASA style countdown. At the very moment the the SOF reached zero, the Habu would release brakes. She would use half the runway normally (approx. 6,000ft) to get airborne, and would pull nose up after clearing the departure end of the runway. Most times the SOF would tell us she would meet up with a KC(135) and then on to wherever she was going.

    About an hour and a half later she would return, with the SOF waiting in the tower. Mostly she would land, but on rare occasions she would do a low approach or touch-and-go. She would taxi right back to the hangar and doors promptly closed. An absolutely gorgeous aircraft to watch in motion and standing still!

    Another time, I'll tell the story about what happened in the tower when N.Korea tried to shoot down our Habu. :evil
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    Last time I was at the Evergreen Museum, they had one of the J58s out of the airframe and on display where you could walk right up to the intake.

    The amount and quality of the safety wiring job on that thing was awesome in it's own right.
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    awesome picture!
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