ST1100...I might just pull the trigger.

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Mr. Thumpy, May 3, 2012.

  1. Yostwerks

    Yostwerks Been here awhile

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    I owned my 91 ST1100 for over 17 years and 77K miles. Great bike ! I preferred it to both my 97 Concours and 05 FJR 1300.

    On the ST1100 heat was never an issue compared to the Concours ... hottest bike I've ever owned.

    My last ride on the ST in Sept 08 .. Gone but not forgotten !
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  2. Royal Tiger

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    My only issue would be weight and that has more to do with my driveway/garage configuration. My R1200ST is 200 pounds lighter then a ST1100 with more power. It also wasn't $3k either. Personally I think you can't go wrong with any bike used in police service. The ST11/13 series proved itself under the most demanding conditions for a street bike.
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  3. Outwardbound

    Outwardbound Been here awhile

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    About the heat issue...
    I own a 13. It USED to be a nut-cooker, but there is an easy fix.
    I sealed around the seatpan with a rubber moulding I bought from Home Depot. Then I removed the left inner fairing (invisible from the exterior). The increased airflow around the radiator swept the excess heat out of the left side air duct. No problem now in 90 degree heat. Mind you ANY bike gets hot when you're not moving, but the ST1300 is now no worse than my Versys. For more details, search for "heat issues" on the ST Owners forum.

    My Concours was a cooker as well, but a $20 aftermarket heat shield fixed the problem. Most all the ST's issues (and there are few) are fairly easily addressed. Don't let them scare you away.

    Ride On !
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  4. Outwardbound

    Outwardbound Been here awhile

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    Oh yeah..and another thing..

    When I bought my 13 I looked at several 11's. I decided on the 13 because I was "done" with carb'ed bikes. I never thought I really needed some of the bells and whistles standard on the 13. But....
    I found that the electrically adjustable windshield is the greatest thing since canned beer. Really. Who'dathunkit ? It's now an item I'll never be without, and I'm an anti-farkle kinda guy. It's that good.

    SO......I gotta recommend that you do whatever it takes to find a 13 over an 11. It really IS a generation ahead. Absolutely no regrets spending the extra dosh for the 13, and as bike-buyers go I'm as cheap as they come.

    Just food for thought.
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  5. choppahead

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    Gotta admit I was suprised that I was so uncomfortable on the ST1100. I know their reputation as a serious hi-miler. I bought mine from a friend who'd owned it since '94 and had put over 100,000kms on it. I thought at last I'm getting a bike I can sit on for hours and eat up the miles, after years of HDs and other standard style bikes. I should note that it was my first full on, liquid cooled, tupperware touring bike, even though I fancy myself a 'touring' rider. I like to ride longer distances on back roads.

    The first 2-4 hr ride I did was on a 80 degree day. It still had the higher windshield on it. Short of stripping down to my undies I could do nothing to cool down...
    The previous owner is a big guy. The seat was well worn in and bars were stock. My butt was seriously hurting after an hour. On a 5 -6 hour ride I was squirming for most of it. Lack of alternative positions for my feet caused my knees and legs to get pretty stiff.

    I traded it on an original style Victory cruiser. I know they're not everyone's cup of tea but with a Mustang seat, windshield and floorboards, the upright (kitchen chair) seating position and multiple options for foot placement make the same roads I covered on the ST in sweaty pain, pleasant afternoon rides. Plus, to my eye, the Victory has a much nicer, classic look.
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  6. WayneJ

    WayneJ Get Off My Lawn

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    You forgot boring. :D
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  7. 30Bones

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  8. number9

    number9 Been here awhile

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    If you buy an ST, you should buy one from an "ST guy" that knows the bike and has taken care of it accordingly.

    I had a 98 model and put 40k on it all over the US. Fantastic motorcycle. And with suspension upgrades - there were many guys on sportbikes wondering who that guy with the saddlebags and CB antenna was that just passed.

    Mine was freaking CHERRY and I hated to sell it because I knew I'd never find one like it again. But, we had a few kids and I stopped taking long mile or multi day rides all the time and it was just a little too big and a little too heavy for playing around locally. Kind of like you need to run out to the store and get a gallon of milk real quick - and you've got an F-350 Dually and a Jeep Wrangler in the driveway. Nothing in the world wrong with the F-350, but you're gonna jump in the Jeep.

    They aren't comfortable for some people STOCK, but seat change, bar change or risers and they can be super comfy. I did 1326-miles in one sitting on mine and physically felt fine when I got home, mentally I was smoked. LOTS of guys do BIG day miles on these bikes, they can't be all that uncomfortable.

    Damn, just reliving this is making me miss mine ....

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    And don't let anyone tell you they won't handle the twisties - me and YellowWolf had a great run across the Prison Road TN 116 one day. If you don't know who he is, google him and watch some of this videos of running his Wing across the Dragon.

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  9. glynb

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  10. Maverick75

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    Just another opinion amongst many. I'm on my second ST11 after a 6-year run on a R1200GS. The first ST I aquired at 130000km and sold at 230000km, now it has 280000km and is still going strong. The timing belt is not a big job really and as long as the final drive spline has been properly lubed at tyre changes these bikes are unkillable.

    Regarding heat, my first ST, a '93, got very hot but my latest one, a '01, doesn't. The '01 has insulation under the tupperware that the '93 never had. Worthwhile looking into if you buy an earlier model.

    Also, the newer bike is an ABS-CBS model. All opinions on ABS aside, the brake hardware itself is much better (better calipers, greater brake area etc). I would definitely recommend the ABS-CBS model if available.

    I test rode a ST13 when leaving the first 11, but thought it felt too 'busy' compared to the extremely relaxed nature of the 11.

    As far as 'boring' is concerned, my '01 with a Penske rear unit and racetech gold valves up front is surprisingly quick through the twisties. I also ride a lot of dirt roads and tracks (a habit I aquired courtesy of my GS years) and they are quite capable as such, providing you plan your attack and don't get too silly. They are easy to pick up if you lift correctly.

    You can feel assured that this bike is going to deliver you to your destination without the wheels falling off :wink:.
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  11. elementalg20

    elementalg20 Been here awhile

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    Well gentlemen, I started a new thread. I picked up a new sport touring rig, one that will have it's own flaws and niggles but it's got it's own charms as well. It's a 98' Triumph Trophy 1200. It's had most of the "issues" dealt with(coils, fuel and vac lines, rejetted). Other than sharing mpg figures with an F150 it's a hoot thus far, and I got it for a song.
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  12. 30Bones

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    Not a damn thing wrong with a Trumpy, I would still have my ST had a lady not stopped at a green light :cry
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  13. fearmor

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  14. fearmor

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    There,s a guy on st-owners.com with over 400,000 miles on one
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  15. fearmor

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    I,m on my second ST1100,I raised the bars 1" (no need to changed cables,lines or plastic),lowered the pegs and had the seat re-foamed and recovered.I have often ridden it 4 hrs non stop.
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  16. Sir Denis Eton-Hogg

    Sir Denis Eton-Hogg Tap into America

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    Great bike, best $2000 sports tourer out there, can rack up phenomenal mileages, some minor issues but overall a great bike.

    Watch the vid

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  17. slipknot

    slipknot Been here awhile

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    That is a very good video review. I'd like to add that if there is an odor of coolant it is likely to be a loose clamp where a hose connects to the thermostat manifold, very easy access, or the manifold on top of the block which requires taping the smallest wrench in the tool kit to the screwdriver handle to reach the clamp. That requires seat and fuel tank removal which is surprisingly easy.
    If there is any hesitation on full throttle passing or hill climbing just remove the vacuum petcock which is typical redundancy as the small diaphragm does deteriorate and Honda does not offer a kit to repair. Honda does offer a complete petcock at $140 or so. Totally unnecessary. There is another possible cause of the same symptom in bikes with very high milage or years and that is gas fumes can condense in the fuel cap and clog the vent. From Honda $150 for the cap. Or soak in solvent (a bitch to take apart as not an intention of the mfg'er) and replace the vent hose.
    Three o-rings on the rear hub, very cheap from Honda, that should be replaced at least every other tire change.
    For the replacement of the steering head bearings, swingarm bearings and other high milage items one can borrow tools from a wonderful fellow at the http://www.st-riders.net/ but you must jump through a couple of easy hoops. These tools travel the country from member to member, your obligation is to forward the tools to the next rider at your own expense. I had my bike disassembled and ready for the tools, finished the work in one day, then waited for two or three weeks for the email to arrive with an address for the next rider. The box of tools will have multiple contributions of tutorials from enlightened owners.

    http://www.st-owners.com/ is the resource mentioned by Sir Denis. And I must reinforce his verdict, this is the most economical and reliable long distance bike one can buy. Not the most technologically advanced but that is to our advantage as it often lends to the economy and reliability. I've owned two, huge regrets from selling the first, and I've owned a lot of other brands and genre.
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