You don't get it do you? The first thread was doomed because of what it stood for as later demonstrated by the OP's attitude, not in general, but in detailed by the OP from the get go and throughout his posts. If you want this to survive, let it go and go with the flow. We all support the general idea. We all support big bike rides and NOOBs learning more, what we don't support is division of any sort, so if this is your groove then move on. What you are doing would be considered trolling by the mods, so don't go the "way of the dinosaurs" by posting the same shit twice. Once at 4:44 and again at 4:57. We get it, you loved Fudgy. So then go start an "Ode to Fudgy" thread. Good luck with that. Grinch is trying to keep things on track this time, so let's not fuck it up again.