Steering Stabilizer ... Done to Death I Know But ....

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by scottr, Oct 3, 2006.

  1. scottr

    scottr Banned

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    I've read all the threads. I've gone to all the supplier sites.

    I'm confused. :dunno

    The Ausie/Brit duo are Emig devotees and I spose I'll end up succumbing. I'm gettin mine in black or shiny though as I hate being a 'twinner' or copycat. :bluduh

    But I really don't want to spend that much dough and I could not care less about the bling factor. Emig DOES sort of make it easier for us 950 folk however and their service IS personal and seemingly almost devotional to their customers.

    Whereas it seems Scott's has no love for us punk 'amateurs'.

    But then I'm impressed with the remote control aspect of the RTT. Makes a lot of sense.

    But what my primary question is ... is there any good way to get a stabilizer on a stock '06 950 with the existing clamp? And would it be as good a setup as the others where one needs the clamps, post etc.?

    I don't actually care about the offset factor of the Emig or others.

    Thanks

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  2. erider

    erider erider

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    We've got a kit in design, that will mount above the bars. Scott's gold box, with an erider top clamp and tower. $579.00. Should (hopefully !) be available for release by 12/1/06. www.erider.ws (440) 286-6273
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  3. Pointman0853

    Pointman0853 Unregistered Gun Owner

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    "Whereas it seems Scott's has no love for us punk 'amateurs'".

    Sorry...I gotta say 'Bullshit' to this one.... It's all in how you get to Scott.

    When I went looking for a damper, I asked someone who really knew thier shit. Without first voicing a preference, I was told that Scott was the only brand to get, and this came from a young guy who only placed 4th overall in Dakar last year.

    Will the other ones work? Maybe, but I'm not into experimentation when my life could be on the line.

    PM me off list if you would like to know more...:D .

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  4. scottr

    scottr Banned

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    It's generally accepted that Scott's is one of the - if not THE best stabilizer. It seems also to be common knowledge that you can't get personal attention out of them. Just sayin.

    :norton
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  5. cpmodem

    cpmodem Orange Caveman

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    I have been using a GPR stabilizer since early summer and love it. The 950 doesn't need one on pavement, but offroad, one is definitely essential. I have ~3000 miles offroad on this one and it functions as advertized and without any problems. I have no affilliation with GPR. Just a happy customer.
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  6. scottr

    scottr Banned

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    Looks real good. Please tell me more. How did install go? That's their clamp too, right? How many different after-market pieces did you have to use? If you don't mind .... what was cost? Any more pics? Closeup of control would be nice. Thanks much. :clap

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  7. scottr

    scottr Banned

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    Looking again ..... which controls are which? I see some buttons on the left and a lever on the right I don't recognize. I spose the togle is for you lights?
    Thanks again.

    :norton
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  8. cpmodem

    cpmodem Orange Caveman

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    All necessary parts are included. Direct bolt on; just takes as long to install as it does to R&R the handlebars and top triple clamp. Took me ~1 hour, but I had the Dept's Heavy Equipment Mech assisting :wink:
    I believe the price is ~$500. I didn't buy mine; it was a door prize at last year's Red Hot Riders' Baby Butt 1500. Petty good door prize, eh :clap

    The toggle sw is for the Hot Grips. The push buttons below it are an OEM KTM part that controls the tripmeters. The lever on the right is a throttle lock.
    -cp
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  9. O.C.F.RIDER

    O.C.F.RIDER Loose nut behind h/bars

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    I've got these......
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    20mm offset and it DOE'S make a big differance on pavement, no more tank-slappage when you let go of the bars between 50 to 40 mph!! Big $$$$ but worth it IMHO! Only gripe is the orange is fading:cry ...BUT, Emig's said they will refinish free of charge:D The only way it could be any better is if they didn't fade in the first place.
    See ya
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  10. advjackass

    advjackass orange crusher

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    i was uninformed of this common knowledge. when i was looking at them i talked to both and the people at scotts helped me the most. i did not know shit from apple butter and the sales guys at scotts explained evrything clearly. while the people at emig were not that helpful. everybody has off days but common knowledge:topes

    i went with scotts and could not be happier!
    http://www.scottsperformance.com/index.php
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  11. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

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    So how do you mount a Scotts damper if I wanted to do it next week?

    Thanks -P
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  12. goldfinger

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    I used a Rtt before complete piece of shit,always leaked had it replaced three times but still always leaked oil,I have been using the Scotts on my 990 with the underbar mount and triple clamp and it works a treat,i have been using the GPR v3 on my 525 EXC which has a remote adjuster on it and have been very impressed.The GPR and the Scotts work very similar in the fact they both have a sweep valve where the RTT is a one way damper.
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  13. Denalidirt

    Denalidirt High Plains Drifter

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    Ive had both the scotts and the gpr. First the scotts and second the gpr. They were both mounted on my 525. I like the gpr better than the scotts, it has less settings and its easier to dial your prefered setting. They both work very well. The gpr vr would be nice for the dirt bike but I don't think you need the vr for the 950. My only experience is with dirt bike applications and I'm not sure if the added weight of the 950 would adversly effect there performance.
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  14. Denalidirt

    Denalidirt High Plains Drifter

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    Its a pretty easy install. I used a strap to keep the forks and wheel from moving. Remove bars, top clamp and dust collar. install new collar, post, camp and scotts. very easy. However, I would consider a shorter post and under bar mount. This, I think, works better , less flex in post and it holds better. only an oppinion everyone has one
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  15. J Lewis

    J Lewis Numb Nuts

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    I have the Scotts on my 950, I wouldn't use anything else. It is the by far the most adjustable damper and on the 950 you need to dial it in, especially the high-speed damping.

    The instructions are simple to follow, takes a couple of hours to install.

    JIMMY
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  16. dirtyboy

    dirtyboy Adrenaline junkie

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    The Scotts bar mount does not angle back as far as the KTM mount, so the bars/handguards end up closer to the windscreen. I suppose it's not a problem if you're using the stock KTM bars, but it is for me since I changed to ProTapers with less sweep (personal preference to improve wrist position). When I installed the Scotts triple clamp/bar mount, I had to cut off the lower corners of my fairing to allow full sweep of the handlebars.

    Just something to be aware of...
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  17. Wayne Weber

    Wayne Weber why are we stopping?

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    we are working on a design right now, that uses the stock 950 tripple, with a scotts damper.

    If there is interest, that will encourage us to get after it. :deal
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  18. goldfinger

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    The thing I liked about using the Scotts triple was that it raised the bars to a more comfortable level.
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  19. SGB

    SGB Learning Always

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    I have a Scotts on the 525 and Emig on the 990. I went Emig on the big one because it was easy to do business with them from far away and the stuff they make fits well and works well. Looking at the product only, I would buy any of the 2.

    But mounting directly onto the stock clamp is not so simple, you HAVE to get the alignment of the damper and the steering head 100%, otherwise you are wasting your time. I got it right, but not very elegant, then went for the Emig top clamp and damper.

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    And when you hit the REAL sand, every penny is worth it!!

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  20. scottr

    scottr Banned

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    Thanks for all this great input. Really appreciate it.

    :clap :thumb :wings :rayof :ricky
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