Stock battery life

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by propilot10, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. propilot10

    propilot10 Been here awhile

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    I know the subject has been discussed at great length but I have to ask again. Did the search and can't find what I'm looking for.

    I have 2012 adventure with 4700 miles got it in may. The battery started giving me trouble two months ago. It had sat 3-4 weeks and when I went to start it it was too weak. So I charged it and went on a long ride over 1000 miles with a buddy worked fine. Now if it sits any more than five days it's too weak. This is after a fairly long ride before putting it in the garage. Like an hour or so. My question is should I expect this to be warranted? I called the dealer whom I know well and got a bit of a run around. At one point he said that it should be on a tender which I agree but it's only sitting 5-7 days in California so it's not freezing cold. He then went on to say that even two days and they can be dead. I think this is very unreasonable. Two days? Really? It sat up to two weeks no problem at all until now. I know the value of putting a better battery yada yada. But I feel it's so new I shouldn't have to pay for a replacement. A year sure. But 7 months?? Anyone have a similar and get it replaced under warranty?
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  2. catalina38

    catalina38 Long timer

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    My 2010 990R battery crapped out at 2.5 years. It was an Western power sports AGM which what was not what I expected.
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  3. PABiker

    PABiker Anywhere but here

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    My original Yuasa made it over 6 years, I just replaced it 2 months ago.
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  4. Martynho

    Martynho No more Chilegringo.

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    On 2 990`s over the last 3 years and 90,000 miles I have averaged about 18 months out of the yuasas. Once tried a half price chinese YTZ14, not a good deal it only lasted 6 months
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  5. crashmaster

    crashmaster ow, my balls!

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    My OEM Yuasa shorted a cell at about 2 months. My OEM Yuasa on my 450 EXC shorted a cell at about 6 months. When a cell shorts it basically means, no workie, at all. Because of this series of strange and unfortunate events, I never bought another Yuasa again. Could be some kind of weird quantum flux in my brain that caused these failures, and many of my friends like Martyn would probably concur, but it is what it is. I am not a fan of Yuasa after this. YMMV. :lol3

    I bought a Power Source brand AGM for $79 USD (cheep Chinee battree) and it worked well for over 3 years. The only reason I replaced it (with another Power Source brand cheep Chinee battree) was because I was paranoid about cheep Chinee battrees. :lol3 But I have run this new cheep Chinee batriee for over two year, not on a tender, and being ridden only once every couple of months and its still good to go. So, for me, 2 thumbs up for cheep Chinee batriees. :freaky

    Holy crap mate you rode almost 100K miles in 3 years? :bow Mate, no wonder you blew up your bikes. :freaky

    Would love to come back down to the promised land and ride with you again, especially at over 100 mph on the Chilean carreteras. :D
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  6. CharlieFox

    CharlieFox Been here awhile

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    I am still on the original battery of my 2008 990A. However, it is getting weak and will replace it this winter.
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  7. AdvGa

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    Did you add any extra Electrical Components? If so, you may have some Parasitic Drain.

    If not, I'd push the Dealer for a Battery Exchange.

    My '06 still has its original battery (still strong) and on a Tender when not on duty.
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  8. David37

    David37 Been here awhile

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    My original 950SE Yuasa lasted only 18 months and it was toast.
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  9. mcmann

    mcmann Motorcycle ADV enthusiast

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    YTZ14S batteries are factory sealed and activated. No telling how long your battery sat before you purchased the bike. Look at the mfg date of your bike to determine how long the battery sat discharging. Dealers should charge all batteries the day they get their bikes. Batteries should be charged within 4 months of activation or they will not recover fully. At 9 months idle . . . The best you can get is 90% recovery . . . Depending on how hot the warehouse was during its life. Heat kills batteries. Your dealer should do a load test to determine if the battery is bad. I have ordered new YTZ14S batteries that were bad in the box . . . Must have sat in a hot warehouse too long. I prefer acid pack batteries that I can activate myself.
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  10. KTM Pilot

    KTM Pilot Been here awhile

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    2007 990 Adv original battery, still going strong, used a tender for the last 5 years. Did give me trouble one trip when it was below 0degrees C (freezing). Been fine since.
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  11. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

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    My OEM battery on my 950 went 3 good years and one more poor year before it would not take a charge. But at least it gave me plenty of warning so I was ready for it. Dang, those things are expensive!
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  12. Helipilot

    Helipilot Been here awhile

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    My 2010 990A, which I bought new in May of this year, original battery lasted only from May to the end of July. My dealer replaced it under warranty with another Yausa. Do far so good, keep it on a tender when not riding it. Keeping my fingers crossed.

    I am just now starting to add farkles to this bike to match my riding needs.
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  13. propilot10

    propilot10 Been here awhile

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    I'm going down tomorrow to get it load tested. Is it unreasonable to expect it to be able to sit idle a week or two without being in a tender? I don't have any new electrical stuff. Bone stock. So parasitic draw shouldn't be a problem. Unless the bike has an issue. That's the second step if the battery is fine. I plan to get a tender and use it from now on. Just seems kinda lame to only get a few days before it goes dead. I'll check the date of manufacture to get an idea of the battery age. I was thinking that might be it. May have sat in a crate built for a year before I bought it.

    Thanks for the feedback guys.
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  14. superhak31

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    +1 on the battery tender
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  15. mcmann

    mcmann Motorcycle ADV enthusiast

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    Yes a battery tender will preserve your battery. The OptiMate 3 can revive your battery (in my experience).

    Also, a Fuse Block FZ-1 will help keep your battery from discharging while sitting (without a battery tender) . . . As long as you ride every couple of weeks . . . If your battery is not desulfated etc.

    http://www.tecmate.com/u_optimate_3plus.php#img1

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    OptiMate 3+ desulfater-charger-maintainer is recommended for STD (with removable filler caps), sealed AGM (absorbed glass mat) & sealed GEL 12V lead-acid batteries from 2Ah to 45Ah, although it can also maintain larger batteries (it will just take longer to charge).

    Why OptiMate 3+? Forgot to switch off the ignition / lights or did not hook up the battery to a maintainer during off-season and now the battery is ‘dead’? There is no need to rush out and buy a new battery as OptiMate 3+ has been proven to save neglected, deep discharged batteries other smart chargers can’t.

    Think that batteries only last 2-3 years? OptiMate 3+ has been proven to extend battery life to 400%; batteries can last 8 years if maintained with OptiMate 3+. To make this work always hook up OptiMate 3+ to the battery when the vehicle is parked and OptiMate 3+ will safely maintain the battery at 100%, never overcharging, thanks to its unique 30 min charge, 30 min rest cycle during every hour of long term maintenance charge.

    Includes 2 connection accessories : (see pictures to the right)
    SAE-71 permanent ringlet connector with weatherproof cap & SAE-74 set of battery clips.

    Fully automatic operation that includes all safety features such as reverse polarity protection, no spark connection : approved to UL & CSA safety standards for automatic battery chargers.
    2 year limited warranty. Service centers in the USA & Canada
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  16. Hipster

    Hipster Long timer

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    I've also had good luck with their batteries, and they have more CCA then the stock Yuasa.
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  17. frunta_sti

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    My YTZ 14 S (bike purchased and used in Europe), lasted 8 years and started to give me problems, early this winter, ones the tempereture dropped down to 3 deg C at night. (37,4 Farenheit).

    Pretty good for a stock original battery, I think.
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  18. triplenickel

    triplenickel Long timer

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    No it isn't I work away from home 2 weeks at a time and about 60% of the time I remember to put my tender on and I'm still on the stock battery after almost 5 years and 70K. Granted it doesn't get the heat exposure it would in Cali but if your batt is good it shoud last for 2 weeks.
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  19. BigDogAdventures

    BigDogAdventures Fart Letter

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    If you want to have a battery that will last about 10 years-------or maybe more.
    Maybe you won't have the bike that long---but you can depend on it.
    I

    Do what I did and put a Odyssey PC-310 in it.
    The Odyssey in my KLR is 11 years old-------has never been on a charger ....it has never failed to start the bike.
    It will crank your bike over way better than a stock battery.
    It is smaller physically than the stock battery and it comes with pads to shim it in------very easy install.

    Now--------someone on here is going to pipe in and say the specs on the battery aren't up to what the stock battery is.
    And they are right. You can talk technical bull all you want---------don't mean diddly squat to me.

    The Odyssey battery with the correct specs---------won't fit in the battery box. A very few have modified the battery box to fit it-------a huge, huge project.

    However--------they'll be wrong in thinking it doesn't work---i've had one in my 950 for a couple of years and every time i hit the starter I'm reminded how strong this battery is.

    10 years down the road it will probably still be crankin' the bike over.

    Not cheap--------$180 or so --------not sure exactly ???

    BigDog
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  20. 75monza

    75monza Been here awhile

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    I think that I got 4 years out of the stock battery. I bought the bike (06) used in 08. I put 2 years on the battery after I bought it before it went bad and wouldn't take a charge. The next battery lasted about a year and a half and died suddenly when going down the highway. I replaced it last year, and haven't had any battery problems since. I don't really pay attention to the brand. I just get it based on the price and availability. If somebody has one in stock that fits and I need a battery, I go and get it.

    I use a battery tender jr. when it is cold out.

    I took the bike to the shop up in CDA twice, and I was told twice that my battery was junk and they tried to make me buy another one. After getting it home, the battery always charged right back up and never gave me any problems. I took them a perfectly running bike and got it back with a flat battery twice.
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