Straight legging

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by cyclopathic, Mar 28, 2018.

  1. cyclopathic

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    EDIT: I am willing to try but there's no effing way I put my leg on swing arm or let someone close to my front brake lever on the bike without handguards.
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  2. Richarde1605

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    Good vid, have been towed offroad, downhill spoondrains are interesting :-)

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  3. cyclopathic

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    Towed with strap?
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    Piece of rope, I'd crashed my canam mx6 and pinched the throttle cable badly...


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    A lot less plastics back then, pulled the steering head with a rodeo grip release...

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    That's a really bad accident waiting to happen.
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  7. WolvesLower

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    No way!
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  8. foxtrapper

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    Smallish bikes, smooth level ground, lots of open space. OK. I'd be willing to push or be pushed to get the bike started.
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    retiredgentleman Been here awhile

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    That's a really bad idea. Avoid at all costs.
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  10. Bucho

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    My riding group has done some pretty long tows to get a dead bike out back to trucks or at least out to a road where we could a truck/van to pick it up.

    We have found that using a tow rope and tying it off from foot peg to foot peg works fairly well.
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    Bad idea. If the towed bike goes down the towing bike is going down also and will go down hard because they don't know it is coming.
    Better to wrap the strap around the foot peg and then the rider puts foot pressure on the strap. If something happens the strap can release from the bike
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  12. cyclopathic

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    It wouldn't work. IIRC physycs the force exerted function on pulling force, friction and numberber of rope turns exponentially. In order to be able to release the rider would have to loose strap before going down.
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    This.

    If all you’re doing is roll starting the bike, don’t tie it on, just hold the rope on the foot peg with your boot. Lift and it drops to the ground.

    I use a tie down strap, those roll up neatly.

    Also if the bike is down a bank you can use the ratchet to pull it back up one millimeter at a time over 3 hours. Don’t ask me how I know this...
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    I don’t wrap it around, I just put the end over the peg and step on it. That’s enough to hold it in place securely. Lift your leg and it comes off instantly.

    There is still some risk of it getting caught in a chain or wheel, but I don’t think that would be too serious as long as you’re ATGAT.
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  15. foxtrapper

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    If you wrap it 45 times around the foot peg you'd be right. But just once, it'll let go. But there is still risk. Mostly that you won't release quickly enough.
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  16. Roadracer_Al

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    I've done something like that. When I was young and stupid. We used a wide belt and looped it around footpegs. Yes, even less room between bikes and more risky than straight-legging, but it worked and I'm still alive to tell the tale.

    Regarding jump starting, a very excellent means of starting a dead bike -- but only if both bikes have center stands -- is to get the bikes facing away from one another, on the centerstands, and the rear wheels touching firmly. Get one bike on the stand, the other bike in position well away, then inch the stand placement back until the wheels touch. Once the wheels are in contact, it's just a matter of using the running bike to gently bring the rear wheel of the dead bike up to speed, then dropping the clutch just like an ordinary push-start.

    This method is significantly safer because if either of the bikes fall off the stand, they will move away from each other. You probably want to do this with some room in front of each bike, just in case.
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    In '79 I bought a used 860 Ducati and in June rode to Louisville for a half -mile flat track. On the way home on 64 I ran out of gas . The 860 had reserve position on the pepcock , so off I go to find that reserve on that bike was a cruel joke. It only gave you the gas from a tiny angled area in the tank and was good for maybe 4 miles.
    As I was considering my hike , a good Samaritan in the form of a large patch club member and his woman pulled up.
    "What's wrong ?" "Gas" "I'll peg you "
    I didn't know what he meant . I thought he meant he was going to straight leg my footpeg , but , no.
    He said "Put your hand here and keep your arm straight ."
    Here was above his headlight on the upper triple.
    His Shovelhead's transmission was a 4 speed , 1st , 2nd and 3rd were evenly spaced , but , 4th was a lot higher ratio and for a second I thought my arm was going to fold , but , it held. We got up to 50 -55 and he pushed me right up to the gas pump about a 4 mile push. He gave me a courtesy card and said I should stop by the Knoxville club house . Never did , but , learned you can't judge a book by it's cover.

    Towing ?
    I rode my Z-1 to California and back to Kentucky in '77 . On the homebound leg we had just crossed into Illinois after crossing the Mississippi at Hannibal Mo. when my bike went on two cylinders. The points rubbing block had worn down so one set of points wasn't opening.
    We made to a little mom and pop motel and in the morning scavenged a shed for a length of rope. I had crash-bars on for the trip so tied to the other bike , I looped the rope once around my crash-bar and held it to my right grip . No problems making the 20 miles back to Hannibal , let the rope drop and coasted right up to the Kawasaki shop as they opened . We had a cup of coffee with the mechanics , told some travel tales , they set the points and sent us on the way , no charge . Good folks.
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    Back in the day I remember a friend pushing another mates Z1 back home several k's with a foot on the foot peg when it died with an electrical problem.

    As is said above, young and stupid. I remember he was limping around with an aching leg for a while afterwards.
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  19. cyclopathic

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    Maybe with a 260lbs dirt bike.. doubt just stepping would work for 600lbs+ ADV beast.
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    Surprised you didn't just set the points yourself. I thought everyone knew how to do that back then. No one I knew had someone replace their points. Take out the plugs, turn the engine by hand, set the points gap so that the spark occurs at the right place. Listen for it. Or watch.
    Or don't pull the plugs, set the points so that a piece of paper slips out at the right time. Everyone had folding money then, that would do. I It's timing by gap, but close enough to get you a long, long ways.
    A long time ago, I know. I'm still surprised.
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