strapping fuel cans to bike? suggestions or better ideas.

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  1. DominicDomingo

    DominicDomingo axe me anything

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    On a desert ride in Morocco in few weeks my buddies and I will need extra fuel for a few desert track crossings. We only need about 10 l each on two occasions so buying an expensive collapsible fuel bladder is out of the question. I've read a few threads on other sites about using water bags and the like but it seems a bit to iffy to me.
    Basically I plan to carefully strap good plastic jerry cans to our bikes, and refill the bike's tanks as soon as there is room. I think that if we take reasonable precautions like not strapping the things to the exhaust and venting pressure buildup from time to time we should be fine.
    I realize that this is not an ideal set up for the long haul but we will be out in the sand, there is a likelihood of some wipeouts but there's nothing to big crash into out there.
    Any comments?
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  2. Lone Rider

    Lone Rider Registered User

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    Maybe purge the pressure if needed.
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  3. Tim Cullis

    Tim Cullis Partially heighted

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    There's no shortage of suitable plastic containers sold in hardware stores in Morocco. Consider bringing a collapsable funnel with you.

    You'll be using fuel at the rate of possibly 1 litre for every 15-20 km, so the best thing is to stop from time to time and top up the main tank.

    When you've finished with the container, stick the top back on and leave it by the side of the piste, someone will be grateful for it.

    Tim
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  4. bananaman

    bananaman transcontimental

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    I think yer on the right track. When I carried 10 liters, I put some Teflon plumbing tape on the threads, and duct tape over everything- to keep the caps on and clean.

    When yer done we need a ride report with pics!
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  5. danman

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    Hey Dominic,

    I bought these, just got them and haven't tried them out. They hold 1.25 U.S. Gallons-about 4 liters, i think--don't know if you can get them in europe. They have a mount that attaches to a pannier and makes them easy to carry, also they make one to carry water (white).

    Here is a link to the manufacturer;

    http://www.kolpinpowersports.com/products/water-and-fuel-packs.html

    And here is a retailer;

    http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=441063

    And here is a photo;

    OK good luck

    Danman
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    My Front Mounted 2-stroke Oil and Motor Oil
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    2ea 1.5 gallon Rear Tanks, with a 4 gallon fuel tank
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  8. Gluaisrothaí

    Gluaisrothaí Feckin' gobshite

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    After nearly getting caught fuel-less on the way down here, I've added ocho litros to the bike.

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  9. DominicDomingo

    DominicDomingo axe me anything

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    Well we're off to Morocco by plane tonight, start riding on Tuesday. Our setup will surely be like Klevin's, I'll post when I get back about how it worked. I'll also make a full ride report.

    DD
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  10. BozoMoto

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    Howdy,

    and best of luck on your adventure.

    One resource I have used in the past when I know I will need extra fuel between stations is to scrounge through the rubbish for empty oil jugs. You can put about a liter in each one, and bungee them on somewhere, then transfer to your tank when space permits, and skuish-bungee, or dispose of. Its a short term, one time fix, but I,m a cheap bastard.

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  11. DominicDomingo

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    Well we're all back in one piece and Bozo you were right on track, in Morocco all non filling station fuel, bought from old men with shacks in the desert, is poured either directly into your tank or sold in motor or vegetable oil jugs. We had the best luck with 4 liter orange cooking oil jugs, we just strapped those bad boys onto our bikes and gave 'er. Two of our bikes were DRZ 400's with stock 10 liter tanks so extra fuel was of the essence.

    DD
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  12. kta

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    1/2 gallon gatorade bottles have a rib in the middle that makes then real easy to bungee down to anything. I carry an extra gallon like this . . . .

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  13. bootzilla

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    Gasoline won't break those bottles down? If they are tough enough to handle it, that is a pretty convienent way to do it. Good tip!
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  14. gatogato

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    Putting all that wait on the back of the panniers sounds like a bad idea for the sub-frame. If it is the desert, maybe it will not matter because it is so flat.
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  15. DominicDomingo

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    We needed more fuel reserves in the desert than in the mountains but we almost always had fuel when we were in the High Atlas. Fuel is a necessity so it must go somewhere. One of the advantages of smaller bottles/cans/jugs for fuel is that you can pack it strategically to distribute weight. Another is that it's actually really easy to top up your main tank from small mouth bottles, so we tended to do it at most breaks.

    I have to recommend not anywhere near the muffler though, the thought of turning into a rolling fireball in the middle of desert was always there as I distributed load.
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  16. smilin jack

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    Hey, I've had real good luck getting the 1 gallon used oil jugs (blue RP Delo) from friends that drive diesel trucks. The jugs strap on the front fender or tie two together to make saddle bags with a bungee to keep them from bouncing off the rack.

    I used a wire cage from a deep freezer to hold several on my ATC 110 when we went moose hunting near Hatcher Pass, AK. My brother lives there.

    I also have tied two 2.5 gallon red plastic fuel jugs together to make saddle bags to hang over the Rubbermaid top box.

    I'll post a picture of the 2 1/2 gallon lawn mower jug.
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  17. Pedro Navaja

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    Read the Angola thread. They used bladders in their saddle bags. After reading the report, I think it was a brilliant idea.

    Mike
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  18. alphajory

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    One of the last trips i did last year i had the end of a bungee cord go through the gas can on the rack and had fuel leak out over the exhaust. I was able to get off and watch while a plume of white vapor came off the hot exhaust. thankfully no exposition. so what ever you use be wary of leaks.
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  19. Itchykawa

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    I plan to use soda bottles on a upcoming trip. I'll only need about 2 liters of extra fuel on one section. I plan to pour it in the tank as soon as I can and then I can just crush the disposable containers and carry them till I get someplace and can dispose of them properly. It seems like the cheapest, easiest solution. They will only need to contain the fuel one time for a couple of hours.
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  20. GiorgioXT

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    PET bottles , like Coca-cola ones have no problem with gasoline , the plastic doesn't degrade and could stay there for month.
    again, PET milk or fruit juice bottles are even better, since they have a gas-barrier into the material and normally a bigger mouth that makes easier to fill, sometimes are also squared .
    Again : 5 2-Litres bottles takes more time to store, but you may distrubuite the weight and you wont loosa all your fuel as happens when you crash a canister ...
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