Strongest Crashable Crash Gaurds

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by Motorfiets, Oct 29, 2010.

  1. Motorfiets

    Motorfiets Long timer

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  2. The Griz

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    There are those that look at the Adv Spec or Wild @ Heart crash bars as the most durable. They may work well for minor tip overs and low speed offs. However, my opinion is that having such a large UNSUPPORTED loop up high might actually make things worse when you lay your bike down with decent speed and force. There is a possibility that large unsupported loop up top might bend inward and push in on the plastic side panels, cracking them or worse yet, pushing in on the radiator and breaking it. Again there are those who will argue that this is not the case, but I feel that with a decent off with decent speed, this might be a possibility, being the bars I mentioned above are made of mild steel and given the tube diameter.:deal

    This is why I personally recommend something with an upper loop that is not so damn big!:D I have the Holan Pro's, but the SW Motech's are great too. And some even prefer not to have an upper loop and choose the Givi or AltRiders, though IMHO for what I do those offer too little protection.



    As far as the skid plate goes, the Altrider, Wild@Heart, and Twalcom Motorally are all equal. The BMW large skid plate is great too.


    Hope this helps.
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  3. lm002e

    lm002e Been here awhile

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    This skid plate seems pretty stout as well:

    http://www.motooverland.com/index_files/Page673.htm

    And I agree with the above post re: crash bars. After looking at just about every set of crash bars on the market, the SW motech bars seem to be a nice compromise: good coverage but not a large unsupported loop of metal tubing. YMMV of course.
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  4. WoodWorks

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    I've had the Givis (good), and now the Holan Pros (better). But if I were buying a new set today, I'd spring for the Altrider. I managed to get a real-world look at them at the BMW rally in Redmond this year, and those things look STOUT. They cover the plastics well, aren't in the way of your knees, and my guess is that you could take down a moose with them.

    My US$ 0.02.

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  5. shuston

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    I have the Holan Pro's and a Motooverland plate. Havent' had the bike down on the crashbars yet though. The Motooverland skid plate is rock solid. IMHO, the only skid plate to get.
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  6. OlyRider

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    I disagree with Griz about the Adv-Spec crashbars. At the Redmond Rally, my F800GS went down *hard* on the right side. ($5,500 damage) The crashbars did their job admirably, though. BMW parts are crazy expensive, and my bike had several major-ticket items fail. The fuel tank alone was $900. The Adv-Spec bars bent inward about an inch, but didn't contact any plastic bits at all, nor did they cause any damage to the bike. And the skidplate did just as well. However, I replaced them with the Alt-Rider products because my legs are too long for the Adv-Spec crashbars, and I was very impressed with the Alt-Rider products and folks. (And, for me, they are "local".) The Adv-Spec folks (David Lomax, et al...) are first-rate, and the Alt-Rider people are just as good, so I couldn't go wrong with either company. But my point is...don't rule out Adv-Spec for not providing protection. I found out the hard way it does.
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  7. Bucko

    Bucko In a parallel world

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    I'm happy with my PFB (pretty freakin' beefy) SW Motech bars. They've saved the right side of my bike twice. They're big and fat and stout. And they don't look too funky, either. I see the weak point in the better bars as being the steel-into-aluminum mounting systems...but what choice do we have? :confused

    The Altriders look pretty good on the web site, just wondering about the strength of that loop up by the radiator.
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  8. EnderTheX

    EnderTheX Dirt Rider

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    SW Motech.

    Ask me about my crashes.

    Fuck the taller bars, I've never seen anything hit up there and I've slammed my bike 50 times harder than any of you FF.

    If anyone has proof that there is a bar stronger than the SW out there I will eat my hat (without mustard!)
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  9. jasonTDI

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    I have the Holans as they cam on the bike. Upper wouldn't help IMO. I've flung it to the ground at 35+ and other than scrapes and some tweeked bars....I also run the SW moto rack in back with the Andy Straps canvas bags. Maybe that helps. Tweaked them anout 3mm in that fall. Damn impressed!
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  10. Bushwhacker

    Bushwhacker Dirt, Sweat & Gears

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    Have you ever seen this happen.

    I have never seen a post where the AdvSpec bars bent and did any damage to the bike. Ever.

    I assume you are just talking theory and while it does not sound unreasonable, it's wrong.

    Every testimonial regarding the AdvSpec crash bars show this just does not happen.

    Wildman's 30mph get off -

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10565562&postcount=130

    everywherevirually's comments -

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12307674&postcount=149
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  11. The Griz

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    It's not "wrong" Bushwhacker. Just because it hasn't happened to an ADVRider inmate, you and I haven't seen it, and/or someone hasn't posted the results on ADVRider, doesn't mean that it isn't a possibility. Can't use ADVRider.com as a be-all/end-all to what can or can't happen to something. I'm not saying that the ADVSpec or Wild@Heart bars for sure will bend inward too far in the event of a serious off. I'm just saying that it IS a possibility, because it absolutely is with a high unsupported loop like that. Again, I'm not saying for sure, I'm just saying it is a possibility, which is the truth. I myself do not want to entertain that possibility..... not to mention how they look!

    I'm very glad they worked for a couple of ADV inmates.
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  12. digdesign

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    Really? Your assumption is the truth?
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  13. The Griz

    The Griz Long timer

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    Oh jeez. Here we go. It is the truth that it is a possibility, yes. You're reading into it wrong and/or just trying to start some shit.

    Let's not take this thread there.
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  14. digdesign

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    Start some shit? I'm just trying to make sure the OP is not misinformed.

    The truth that it is a possibility = assumption.
    The truth = fact.

    You said truth.
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  15. The Griz

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    This is stupid. I'm going riding. You should do the same Mr. 81 posts.
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  16. 'Flagger

    'Flagger ..this space for rent..

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    :pain

    what started as an informative thread has gotten a bit derailed ... 'tis a shame.
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  17. The Griz

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    [quote='Flagger]:pain

    what started as an informative thread has gotten a bit derailed ... 'tis a shame.[/quote]

    I know. Let's get it back on track.
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  18. digdesign

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    No need. Does post count really have anything to do with this?

    For the record. I agree with your assumption. ..and it seems we both agree now that it is an assumption.
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  19. vasculopath

    vasculopath You're not your bike

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    I've had several low speed Bonks with my 'Wild" bars, and no ill effects. By far the best looking bars.

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  20. MoToad

    MoToad Been here awhile

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    SW Motechs. Reasonably priced, beefy and well designed. Mine now have a few scrapes but no sign of bending. And the bodywork has never been touched.
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