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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by cold_fire, Apr 13, 2009.
I always thought a moped had pedals
Mopeds have cranks and pedals and in theory can be ridden like a bicycle. Lots of drag though that's why I say in theory.
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+1. Only had the balls to do that once, and it actually turned out quite well for a night.
A moped is a small motorcycle with a displacement of less than 50cc. Something like this. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Honda_Hobbit.jpg
So the main difference is that many scooters have motorcycle like HP while mopeds are low powered and restricted to 30mph.
It's the connotation of not being able to get out of its own way which is more irritating than anything.
Mopeds have pedal's so you can use that extra 1/4-1/2hp lurking in the squishy meat machine rideing it. usualy don't have transmissions, limited to 25mph or less (in WA).
Scooters have some sort of transmission, no pedal's and usualy have more power.
I'll add to that ...... if you add a small motor (gas or battery) to a bicycle, that is then a moped .... hope that helps.
Moped= Motorized Peddle bike.
Varies by state: They are the same category in NC: http://www.dmv.org/nc-north-carolina/other-types.php
Many cities have lower maximum speed limits than 30 mph, too: I think Durham is 20mph for an unlicensed moped/scooter. Plenty of single-speed, sub 50cc scooters without pedals sold in NC, too.
Word is they'll be treated like motorcycles for licensing soon, so the only practical differences will be power.
The difference between a moped and scooter is pretty easy but I think the line gets blurry between scooter and motorcycle.
Scooter has a "step through" platform?
Not a blurry distinction at all, and you nailed it. A scooter has a step through frame and the engine is usually mounted to, or comprises in itself, the rear swingarm.
All mopeds, by definition, have pedals.
Honda C90 - scooter or motorcycle?
Blurry I say.
Looks like a scooter to me.
Me too, but Honda called it a motorcycle????
All I'm saying is there are several examples of "motorcycles" that look like scooters.
How about this, looks more like a motorcycle but still step through. BTW, I'd like to have one of these, but still wouldn't know whether to call it a scooter or motorcycle. It had a low range in the transmission, how cool is that.
Biggest distinction I see between a motorcycle and a scooter is footpegs vs the "floor board" of most scooters. The C90 has a sort of "step through" design but it has footpegs, where almost every scooter Ive ever seen has that little "floor board" kind of space between the seat and front wheel.
You may be on to something, but I bet you could find examples of "scooters" with footpegs though.
Youre probably right. Thats more or less just my personal opinion on what "defines" a scooter.
On a more "on topic" note;
Yesterday morning heading to work (was 24deg when I left), I stop to get gas and fill my coffee cup. Some guy walks up "Arent you freezing??". Me: Actually Im sweating my ass off right now. Him: :huh, and walks away.
Didnt tell him abuot the thermals I was wearing, under the Gerbings jacket running on full, under the thermal liner, under the rain liner with my riding jacket on. LOL. By that point it had risen to a balmy 40deg, and I really was starting to sweat.
They're all bicycles.
I got another "I didn't know BMW made motorcycles" at the weekend. I suppose that's a statement, not a question, but it is the most frequent thing I hear. A close second would be "Do a wheelie" but the most frequent actual questions are "How fast does it go?", which is not really a stupid question, and "Aren't you cold?" which, on the face of it is not stupid, but I wouldn't ride if I couldn't do it relatively comfortably, and I'm usually bundled up pretty well when I hear that one, so I think it's a bit stupid. I'd imagine it's about the same for most riders.
ALL: That plus wheel size does it for me. 12 inch wheels make me start calling the stuff a scooter. Any wheel small enough to make me want to dodge the odd brick, curb, and nearly every pothole makes me think scooter. Also, engine placement under the seat makes me think scooter. There are a bunch of factors when combined make think scooter. The more factors, the more scooter. If it is so small that riding it standing up is not a good option unless you are a kid, it might be a scooter.